the logic of POV
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Posted by: billy ® 10/14/2004, 07:12:46 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

I find the exchanges between POV and Susan very illuminating.  I too have had my doubts about whether M was ever told about Jagdeo because just like POV I found it impossible to believe that he would have let him carry on if he had been told. Nowadays I am not so sure. I agree with POV that M is not always told about things that might 'upset' him but if this was the case here what are we to make of Judy and Randy? Did they think that by not doing anything about it the problem would go away? How could they possibly think that? How could they possibly take that responsibility? It seems inconcievable. According to POV the fact that nothing was done to stop Jagdeo is proof positive that M could not have known. So, he turns his clinical logic on the victim and the parents. He is 'blunt', 'logical' and 'honest'. But not very kind, understanding or fair. There are no rebukes for Judy or Randy and of course none for M. His critical logic fires only in one direction. It seems the victims had responsibilities, the parents had responsibilities but not M. M was not responsible for the ashrams, he was not responsible for the 'misconceptions' of many that he was the Lord of the Universe and he was not responsible for his mahatmas. In short M can do no wrong and incredibly has done no wrong, ever. 'He' may not be 'perfect' but seen through the eyes of a devotee his 'actions' certainly are. It is for this reason that people like POV have such a hard time with EPO. For them it is nothing less than a blasphemous organ. And yet EPO is nothing but a warts and all 'reflection' on the World of Knowledge. It is a testament to the fact that actions have consequences for 'all'.

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a question for POV --- dant ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 07:32:15 ) ( 1076 bytes ) +2 OY! --- Peg ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 10:02:42 ) ( 264 bytes ) An answer for Dant --- POV ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:36:03 ) ( 848 bytes ) HEY! POV, GOK, PAY ATTENTION! --- San ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 09:11:16 ) ( 2679 bytes ) +1 Limiting my time --- POV ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:48:22 ) ( 354 bytes ) +4 Parsing words won't cut it, POV --- San ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:01:19 ) ( 2786 bytes ) +1 Greater than God! --- POV ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 19:31:02 ) ( 2139 bytes ) +4 POV, remember when Maharaji dressed as Krishna? --- #9 ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 21:14:37 ) ( 8633 bytes ) link img +1 I think that was during the dope days. --- POV ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:05:25 ) ( 926 bytes ) +4 POV the Southasia expert --- dant ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 04:55:52 ) ( 992 bytes ) Whose dope days, POV.... --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:33:24 ) ( 662 bytes ) POV, I think you are still doing dope. --- #9 ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 08:47:22 ) ( 5849 bytes ) link Hey, POV, you're doing a bit better. --- Will ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 10:06:58 ) ( 695 bytes ) +1 POV, who are you? --- Will ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 10:24:27 ) ( 232 bytes ) You believe the stupidest fairy tale of all --- gerry ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 21:27:22 ) ( 119 bytes ) Re: Greater than God! --- PatD ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 21:35:35 ) ( 330 bytes ) You made it so clear, POV --- San ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 22:48:04 ) ( 5440 bytes ) +1 No thanks. (no text) --- POV ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:14:07 ) ( 0 bytes ) +3 I thought so. --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:36:49 ) ( 264 bytes ) POV --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:45:33 ) ( 1091 bytes ) +1 YO POV, YOU ARE UP TO BAT! --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:15:41 ) ( 173 bytes ) No thanks to what? --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 19:22:50 ) ( 1407 bytes ) POV! --- #9 ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 17:51:20 ) ( 920 bytes ) link +1 I love those old quotes --- POV ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:33:51 ) ( 509 bytes ) +2 So Maharaji is the messiah now? Wow POV! --- #9 ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 09:45:23 ) ( 1495 bytes ) Your honesty is refreshing, POV. --- cq ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 13:13:32 ) ( 793 bytes ) +1 So is yours. --- POV ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 16:50:04 ) ( 1303 bytes ) +2 facts please --- dant ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 16:55:39 ) ( 409 bytes ) +1 Facts please --- POV ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 18:53:16 ) ( 933 bytes ) +1 very funny --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 02:09:34 ) ( 2141 bytes ) +1 I didn't do it. --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:00:00 ) ( 520 bytes ) +1 can you say a-l-l-e-g-o-r-y? --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:23:13 ) ( 729 bytes ) +2 A-l-l-e-g-o-r-y-? --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 04:32:06 ) ( 504 bytes ) +1 the trouble with scriptures and energy --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 05:05:43 ) ( 1559 bytes ) +2 The trouble with dant --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 06:30:13 ) ( 1128 bytes ) +1 In your dreams daddy --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 07:00:03 ) ( 1359 bytes ) The trouble with consciousness and energy --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:47:37 ) ( 402 bytes ) +1 Re: The trouble with consciousness and energy --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:03:43 ) ( 298 bytes ) He means 1 John, not John 1. (Yawn.) (no text) --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:10:02 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 Thanks Neville! --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:51:24 ) ( 169 bytes ) Why thank you. But the question I hope you can answer is this - --- cq ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:05:19 ) ( 226 bytes ) +1 Weelll, it's because... --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:11:39 ) ( 269 bytes ) +1 But you know full well, POV ... --- cq ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 11:59:08 ) ( 245 bytes ) +1 Not at all... --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:33:30 ) ( 158 bytes ) +3 Nope. That doesn't add up at all (no text) --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:49:37 ) ( 0 bytes ) Let's cut to the chase, POV --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:04:33 ) ( 504 bytes ) Well there's a leap of faith for you ... --- cq ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 18:17:40 ) ( 931 bytes ) He did claim to reveal God, didn't he? --- Neville B ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 05:03:07 ) ( 104 bytes ) +1 He did claim to reveal God. --- POV ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 16:51:45 ) ( 51 bytes ) +1 Re: He did claim to reveal God. --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:40:22 ) ( 610 bytes ) Re: Limiting my time --- godonlyknows ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 13:17:14 ) ( 483 bytes ) +2 I'd answer but you'd just ignore me, right? --- Jim ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 13:27:57 ) ( 131 bytes ) +1 Re: I'd answer but you'd just ignore me, right? --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 09:49:01 ) ( 195 bytes ) Attention Hilltop...we have a contestant --- San ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 20:20:52 ) ( 1638 bytes ) +1 Attention Hilltop...we have an allegory! --- POV ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 23:13:04 ) ( 103 bytes ) The "real" logic of POV --- POV ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 14:54:57 ) ( 3996 bytes ) +4 Time to move on, POV --- Will ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 15:51:27 ) ( 2951 bytes ) Re: The "real" logic of POV updated --- #9 ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 18:30:09 ) ( 4597 bytes ) Inconceivable! --- PatD ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 18:35:26 ) ( 1597 bytes ) Re: The "real" logic of POV --- billy ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:42:22 ) ( 2057 bytes ) +1 Re: The "real" logic of POV --- NikW ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 13:37:00 ) ( 673 bytes ) +1 POV as Rawat Corp soldier, you are exactly correct --- gerry ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 20:01:15 ) ( 47 bytes ) +1 PS I would have bounced POV a long time ago for that reason --- gerry ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 20:03:50 ) ( 200 bytes ) +1 I gotta thank POV, really...just read on... --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 20:39:05 ) ( 1427 bytes ) +2 Washed it down with a little Cream and went Gratefully Dead --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 21:53:49 ) ( 1369 bytes ) +2 " When there was no ear to hear.... --- Lexy ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 07:33:57 ) ( 865 bytes ) Re: Washed it down with a little Cream and went Gratefully Dead --- #9 ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:14:17 ) ( 624 bytes ) +1 You are very charitable --- San ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 01:02:23 ) ( 240 bytes ) You just had to sneak that in, eh Sandy? --- Jim ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 00:36:50 ) ( 13 bytes ) +1 What are you talking about? --- San ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 06:26:50 ) ( 388 bytes ) +1 You guys... Are the Best! (no text) --- Hilltop ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 03:38:38 ) ( 0 bytes )