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Posted by: San ® 10/14/2004, 09:11:16 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Let's keep the following on the table for the duration of this conversation about Prem Rawat and Jagdeo, OK?  It is ignored entirely too much and needs to be taken into most serious consideration at every turn, for it ties together his claims to be God and how those claims impacted directly on personal lives of premies and their families, as well as his involvement with his closest associates, his instructors, and most notoriously, Jagdeo.  Premie Parents may not have trusted an old man they did not know to be alone with their kids if he had not arrived in the wake of someone who had convinced them that he was God and his representatives were beyond suspicion.   Either Prem is Omniscient or he isn't. If he is omniscient, then he knew about Jagdeo, even before choosing him to be an instructor.  This would make him aware of the matter and allowing it, making him an enabler of a very sick pedophile. If he isn't omniscient, then he lied to us about that, which leads me to wonder how much of the rest of what I accepted from him is also fiction.  Perhaps Knowledge according to Prem Rawat is a very convincing placebo, and the real thing is very similar, but not connected to anyone's physical feet or bank account. I find this more troubling than who knew what and when.  I put my whole faith and trust in him and believed everything he said....until this. "Whosoever offends one of these (gesturing to a child), it would be better for that person to have a millstone put around their neck and be thrown into the sea."   -JC            Modified by San at Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 10:43:34

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Limiting my time --- POV ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:48:22 ) ( 354 bytes ) +4 Parsing words won't cut it, POV --- San ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:01:19 ) ( 2786 bytes ) +1 Greater than God! --- POV ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 19:31:02 ) ( 2139 bytes ) +4 POV, remember when Maharaji dressed as Krishna? --- #9 ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 21:14:37 ) ( 8633 bytes ) link img +1 I think that was during the dope days. --- POV ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:05:25 ) ( 926 bytes ) +4 POV the Southasia expert --- dant ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 04:55:52 ) ( 992 bytes ) Whose dope days, POV.... --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:33:24 ) ( 662 bytes ) POV, I think you are still doing dope. --- #9 ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 08:47:22 ) ( 5849 bytes ) link Hey, POV, you're doing a bit better. --- Will ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 10:06:58 ) ( 695 bytes ) +1 POV, who are you? --- Will ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 10:24:27 ) ( 232 bytes ) You believe the stupidest fairy tale of all --- gerry ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 21:27:22 ) ( 119 bytes ) Re: Greater than God! --- PatD ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 21:35:35 ) ( 330 bytes ) You made it so clear, POV --- San ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 22:48:04 ) ( 5440 bytes ) +1 No thanks. (no text) --- POV ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:14:07 ) ( 0 bytes ) +3 I thought so. --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:36:49 ) ( 264 bytes ) POV --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 07:45:33 ) ( 1091 bytes ) +1 YO POV, YOU ARE UP TO BAT! --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:15:41 ) ( 173 bytes ) No thanks to what? --- San ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 19:22:50 ) ( 1407 bytes ) POV! --- #9 ( Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 17:51:20 ) ( 920 bytes ) link +1 I love those old quotes --- POV ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 00:33:51 ) ( 509 bytes ) +2 So Maharaji is the messiah now? Wow POV! --- #9 ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 09:45:23 ) ( 1495 bytes ) Your honesty is refreshing, POV. --- cq ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 13:13:32 ) ( 793 bytes ) +1 So is yours. --- POV ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 16:50:04 ) ( 1303 bytes ) +2 facts please --- dant ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 16:55:39 ) ( 409 bytes ) +1 Facts please --- POV ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 18:53:16 ) ( 933 bytes ) +1 very funny --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 02:09:34 ) ( 2141 bytes ) +1 I didn't do it. --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:00:00 ) ( 520 bytes ) +1 can you say a-l-l-e-g-o-r-y? --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:23:13 ) ( 729 bytes ) +2 A-l-l-e-g-o-r-y-? --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 04:32:06 ) ( 504 bytes ) +1 the trouble with scriptures and energy --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 05:05:43 ) ( 1559 bytes ) +2 The trouble with dant --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 06:30:13 ) ( 1128 bytes ) +1 In your dreams daddy --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 07:00:03 ) ( 1359 bytes ) The trouble with consciousness and energy --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:47:37 ) ( 402 bytes ) +1 Re: The trouble with consciousness and energy --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:03:43 ) ( 298 bytes ) He means 1 John, not John 1. (Yawn.) (no text) --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:10:02 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 Thanks Neville! --- dant ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:51:24 ) ( 169 bytes ) Why thank you. But the question I hope you can answer is this - --- cq ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:05:19 ) ( 226 bytes ) +1 Weelll, it's because... --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 03:11:39 ) ( 269 bytes ) +1 But you know full well, POV ... --- cq ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 11:59:08 ) ( 245 bytes ) +1 Not at all... --- POV ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:33:30 ) ( 158 bytes ) +3 Nope. That doesn't add up at all (no text) --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:49:37 ) ( 0 bytes ) Let's cut to the chase, POV --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:04:33 ) ( 504 bytes ) Well there's a leap of faith for you ... --- cq ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 18:17:40 ) ( 931 bytes ) He did claim to reveal God, didn't he? --- Neville B ( Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 05:03:07 ) ( 104 bytes ) +1 He did claim to reveal God. --- POV ( Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 16:51:45 ) ( 51 bytes ) +1 Re: He did claim to reveal God. --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:40:22 ) ( 610 bytes ) Re: Limiting my time --- godonlyknows ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 13:17:14 ) ( 483 bytes ) +2 I'd answer but you'd just ignore me, right? --- Jim ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 13:27:57 ) ( 131 bytes ) +1 Re: I'd answer but you'd just ignore me, right? --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 09:49:01 ) ( 195 bytes ) Attention Hilltop...we have a contestant --- San ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 20:20:52 ) ( 1638 bytes ) +1 Attention Hilltop...we have an allegory! --- POV ( Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 23:13:04 ) ( 103 bytes )