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Posted by: RGJ ® 02/22/2005, 18:48:34 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Andries, thanks for staying around on the forum despite being given a hard time, sometimes.  I think its useful to see things from the perspective of someone who has had a similar experience but wasn't directly affected by Rawat. I have a question which maybe your more objective perspective might shed light on.  Why, do you think, was DLM/Elan Vital so successful in the mid 70s?  I mean relative to other similar movements or cults, such as SSB.  Was it just the luck of being in the right place at the right time; or was it the the meditation techniques were taught for free, or the Hinduism for Dummies philosophy, or what? Also, as a cult or movement or whatever, how were the SSB people and their organisation different from DLM/EV? Thanks Rob

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Re: Differences between SSB & DLM/EV --- Andries ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 02:09:18 ) ( 3433 bytes ) +1 the forum idea (ot) --- dant ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 07:00:35 ) ( 1107 bytes ) +3 Re: the forum idea (ot) --- Cynthia ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 08:33:47 ) ( 419 bytes ) i wouldn't wanna loose andries' presence here.... --- Toby ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 12:50:32 ) ( 320 bytes ) +1 seconded. Don't let the xenophobes boot him out! (no text) --- cq ( Fri, Feb 25, 2005, 12:41:03 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: (OT) I founded an Ex-guru forum on yahoo --- Andries ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 10:19:13 ) ( 61 bytes ) link +1 (Way Off Topic) Geesh --- Jonathan ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 11:14:18 ) ( 757 bytes ) +1 Re: I am not anti-semitic and have corrected my earlier post --- Andries ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 11:29:03 ) ( 1337 bytes ) +1 And while we're at it, you better clear this up too, if you can, Andries --- Jim ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 11:47:39 ) ( 1996 bytes ) +1 Re: I did not give the same weight to the two opposing perspectives --- Andries ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 14:51:03 ) ( 1122 bytes ) +1 You're inconsistent and confusing about this, Andries --- Jim ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 15:52:36 ) ( 866 bytes ) +1 Re: You're inconsistent and confusing about this, Andries --- Andries ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 16:03:27 ) ( 162 bytes ) +1 So what are you implying then? Is this how you talk in the real world?! --- Jim ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 16:19:24 ) ( 1336 bytes ) +1 Re: I want to keep an open mind until more evidence becomes available --- Andries ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 16:22:00 ) ( 106 bytes ) +1 So what you're REALLY saying is that maybe we ARE that bad! --- Jim ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 16:32:40 ) ( 787 bytes ) +1 Re: Evidence --- Andries ( Fri, Feb 25, 2005, 01:07:09 ) ( 83 bytes ) +3 Definition of Harrassment --- JHB ( Fri, Feb 25, 2005, 02:31:38 ) ( 609 bytes ) +1 Re: Definition of Harrassment, John I believe you --- Andries ( Mon, Feb 28, 2005, 17:39:35 ) ( 202 bytes ) +1 Re: Definition of Harrassment, John I believe you --- Jethro ( Tue, Mar 01, 2005, 01:21:03 ) ( 845 bytes ) Re: Evidence --- Cynthia ( Fri, Feb 25, 2005, 04:42:51 ) ( 3130 bytes ) Then what, Andries? --- Jim ( Fri, Feb 25, 2005, 12:59:34 ) ( 70 bytes ) Re: Was DLM so successful? --- paddy ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 16:53:18 ) ( 471 bytes ) +2 RIght Paddy, DLM was never really "successful." --- Joe ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 17:01:48 ) ( 1765 bytes ) +2 Re: I have a slightly different viewpoint --- paddy ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 00:17:47 ) ( 727 bytes ) +1 Re: I have a slightly different viewpoint --- quirky ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 10:26:39 ) ( 1297 bytes ) +1 The fear stuff and the lack of propagation --- Joe ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 13:42:17 ) ( 2313 bytes ) +2 Re: The fear stuff and the lack of propagation --- paddy ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 15:19:48 ) ( 1015 bytes ) +1 Rawat doing Embarrassing Things --- Joe ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 16:00:06 ) ( 1232 bytes ) Re: The fear stuff and the lack of propagation --- quirky ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 22:30:55 ) ( 1137 bytes ) Prem Rawat played the "Get Higher" card many times. --- Hilltop ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 01:10:22 ) ( 64 bytes ) file img +1 Rawat: "What I have is constant LSD.". --- Joe ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 14:52:27 ) ( 73 bytes ) Re: Was DLM so successful? --- RGJ ( Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 20:01:14 ) ( 1087 bytes ) +1 Re: Was DLM so successful? --- paddy ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 00:31:15 ) ( 1449 bytes ) +1 What universe have YOU been living in, Paddy? --- Jim ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 11:24:09 ) ( 860 bytes ) +1 Re: Rajneesh preached apocalyptic doom --- paddy ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 15:27:51 ) ( 888 bytes ) +2 Re: Rajneesh preached apocalyptic doom --- Gerry ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 18:28:54 ) ( 698 bytes ) +2 In Australia, even the ashram premies went home for Christmas (no text) --- paddy ( Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 23:07:06 ) ( 0 bytes ) So fucking what if they did? They didn't in the US --- Gerry ( Mon, Feb 28, 2005, 18:35:55 ) ( 314 bytes ) Re: Rajneesh preached apocalyptic doom --- Cynthia ( Fri, Feb 25, 2005, 05:29:41 ) ( 1003 bytes )