Good luck with your search for evidence that ex-premies harrass premies. A couple of years ago, I found a fellow ashram resident's email address as a contact on one of the Elan Vital websites. I sent her an email introducing myself, and asking her if she remembers me. She replied saying she did. I sent her a second email telling her about EPO and asking whether she had read it, and what she thought, and she replied accusing me of email harrassment, and that I shouldn't contact her again. True story, Andries, but by all means you are free to doubt my word, unpleasant as that is to know.