One time I saw Krishnamurti very close up at a very small, intimate meeting and the people surrounding him sure looked like devotees to me (the clues are in their eyes) even if or especially if they didn't call themselves or think of themselves as such. He had a message that no-one could actually understand or put into practice so what else were they sitting at his feet for?TM is a very large and successful organisation which, like EV, tries to protray a public face somewhat different to the actual environment of the committed members. There is a large amount of information available from ex-tmers or whatever they call themselves, I'm a bit out of date with the data now.
What universe have you been living in? Rajneesh and his followers who abandoned family and friends and moved to Pune and then Oregon and tried to poison the local community and then imploded very publicly in the early 80's makes Elan Vital look positively harmless.
SSB is not and has not been such a strongly proselytising group as was DLM but it's members have organisations and regular meetings in most major western centers, meditate and travel to India and have darshan as often as they can. SSB don't just donate the odd opthalmology sessions, they donate huge hospitals. Sure the 7 nights a week programme never occurred, we share that dubious history with COG and Hare Krishna. Seems like we were also the lunatic fringe of the lunatic fringe, weren't we?
