The cult mantra: "ex-premies are stuck in the past"
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Joe ®

07/26/2005, 10:35:58
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I always laugh when I hear the cult and current premies just write off all the criticisms of Rawat as being "in the past" and therefore irrelevent.  Of course, they NEVER respond to any of the criticisms, they just try to avoid them with that silly mantra.  I remember a couple of years ago, Rosie Lee wrote a letter to the Daily Californian, which didn't respond to anything that had appeared in an article about Rawat that she didn't like, nor any of the quotes from me.  She just dismissed me as "can't let go."  Again, she spouted the cult mantra.

Anyhow, the two new websites, PRC and PRMI, belie those allegations entirely.  They trace the history of Rawat and his cult and talk about what is going on TODAY, and the controversies, and issues surrounding Rawat TODAY.  Again, I have yet to hear the cult or premies talk about the excellent PRMI website.  The only thing Elan Vital did was try to shut it down with a bogus copyright allegation, which, of course, failed.

The PRC website is entirely about Rawat's activities and PR campaign TODAY.

So, here is another CURRENT topic.  The sorry state of Rawat's attempts at propagation.

I notice that premies tend to focus on how "beautiful" or inspiring some event with Rawat was, from which they imply that Rawat is actually having some success in his stated mission.  But what they never seem to talk about is how Rawat's propagation is a failure TODAY, and I say the reason for this is because TODAY, propagation is basically dishonest because premies aren't able to tell the truth about what they believe.   Even if they are deluded, if they express what they truly believe, which is basically that Rawat is the Lord and knowledge is an experience of God, it would attract some people.  But since they don't, propagation is a dismal failure in the West, and I predict that the cumbersome, heavy-handed and "style-over-substance" "KEYS" will go the same route as everything else Rawat has tried -- into the waste heap of failed initiatives because it, too, is essentially dishonest, and people pick that up.

While you might believe that the experience of knowledge is genuine, whatever genuine experience premies have and whatever beliefs they have about what it is they are experiencing, that isn't what Rawat is propagating, and instead, premies just tell people to listen to him and can't express their beliefs to new people.  So, to interested people, it comes across as dishonest, kind of weird, and uptigh.  Honest enthusiasm is very important in the one-on-one propagation model, and that's really where it happens, not in listening to videos. 

That's why hardly anybody recieves knowledge anymore.  It's also why the Keys look so weird.  "What am I not being told?" comes immediatly to mind, especially when you read the draconian agreement one has to sign that requires relinquishing free speech rights.  Why is this so uptight, almost constipated?

I mean, think about it.  If there are 3000 active premies in North America, and if they are having such a great, attractive, obviously wonderful experience of knowledge, don't you think that at least ONE PERSON in a YEAR for each premie would ask to give knowledge a try?  I mean, that's just ONE PERSON per premie, per year, and only of the really active premies, and yet in one year only 200 people received knowledge (2003) in North America.  Why is that, if this is all such a real and genuine experience?  Are premies hiding in closets or something?

And how do you explain that thousands of people received knowledge in the USA during the time premies were able to express their beliefs freely, and now almost no one does when they are not allowed to?  Don't you think there is a reason for that?  Now, I know 90% of those people have split rom the cult, but I think  the 200 who received knowledge in 2003 won't have any higher percentage of continuing to practice that those who received knowledge in the 70s.

Why are these things not huge drips for premies?  I know in the early 80s, when propagation was failing despite massive fundraising and all kinds of "events" with Rawat, it was a big drip for me. 

So, just for the record, the foregoing is about what is happening NOW.  Note there is not one reference to Rawat as the Lord of the Universe, the holy family break-up, or the Mahatma Jagdeo child sexual molestation scandal.






Modified by Joe at Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 10:55:59

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