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Posted by: Will ® 10/08/2004, 11:08:46 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Gok, Our discussion below is about to go off the screen, so I am starting a new thread up here.  Could you clarify something for me? I know you're a good guy, but I can't help but think that you're being a bit disingenuous here.  I refer to the part where you talk about Maharaji showing you how to experience an inner power and then him reminding you how to experience it.  Surely this is public relations talk rather than plain English. That sounds like being shown how to do multiplication and then being so mathematically challenged that you need to go back for refresher courses again and again. What I think you really mean to talk about, if you were being totally upfront with us here, is what some people call Shaktipat, sometimes spelled Shaktiput.  The basic idea is that the guru triggers the divine spark in you, and when you go back and get his darshan again and again, that spark of divinity is charged up. Now, back in the 70's, I don't think we premies used the term Shaktiput much, but we had that same idea.  And I think the idea continues.  As I said, I think you must believe that you are getting something from Rawat that is more than just instruction and reminders and yet you talk about it here as if it were nothing more than instruction and reminders.  Could you possibly use plain English here? Thanks. Modified by Will at Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:43:57

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Shaktiput and the "inner energy" --- Will ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:14:52 ) ( 2322 bytes ) link +1 More on Shaktipat --- Will ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:20:16 ) ( 351 bytes ) link +2 Rawat and Jagdeo --- Will ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:36:07 ) ( 3961 bytes ) +1 GOK said what? --- San ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 17:27:46 ) ( 628 bytes ) +1 Re: GOK said what? --- Will ( Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 09:45:09 ) ( 445 bytes ) Re: a defective premie --- godonlyknows ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:44:42 ) ( 1718 bytes ) +2 when will it be availabe on emule? (no text) --- toby ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 05:16:28 ) ( 0 bytes ) Defective? that's one word for it --- cq ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 16:20:51 ) ( 636 bytes ) Re: To GOK, bringing it up to the top --- godonlyknows ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:20:33 ) ( 3096 bytes ) +3 Thanks Gok, that was helpful --- Will ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:42:58 ) ( 1005 bytes ) +1 Re: Drugs are just one example. There are other considerations. Like truth. --- godonlyknows ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 13:50:31 ) ( 43 bytes ) +1 Maybe you should ask Prem Rawat about the drug thing. (no text) --- Hilltop ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 23:01:25 ) ( 0 bytes ) Shaktipat and all that --- PatD ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 21:17:38 ) ( 1231 bytes ) +1 late C18th concept of the life force --- Tempora ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 05:20:44 ) ( 1031 bytes ) +2 Re: Satnam --- Jethro ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 06:13:05 ) ( 872 bytes ) +1 Thanks a million, Jeth! --- Tempora ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 07:53:24 ) ( 2081 bytes ) +1 Re: Thanks a million, Jeth! --- Jethro ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 10:29:26 ) ( 1398 bytes ) +1 " Early Days" Jethro? --- Lexy ( Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 07:21:05 ) ( 468 bytes ) +2 Re: " Early Days" Jethro? --- Jethro ( Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 10:03:10 ) ( 474 bytes ) T'en fais pas, la copine --- Tempora ( Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 12:47:33 ) ( 528 bytes ) Re: late C18th concept of the life force --- PatD ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 07:55:53 ) ( 955 bytes ) Re: To GOK, bringing it up to the top --- Hilltop ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 21:37:34 ) ( 745 bytes ) +1 Re: To GOK, bringing it up to the top/Gossip --- Lexy ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 11:44:18 ) ( 1802 bytes ) +1 Re: Gossip --- godonlyknows ( Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 08:42:30 ) ( 527 bytes ) +1 ( in resigned tone ) Yeah right. --- Lexy ( Sun, Oct 10, 2004, 09:25:09 ) ( 640 bytes ) To GOK, bringing it up to the top... --- Cynthia ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 15:53:49 ) ( 791 bytes ) link +2 To post or not to post? is the question... --- Hilltop ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 22:17:04 ) ( 500 bytes ) file +2 Jagdeo talks about Prem Rawat and the children... --- Hilltop ( Fri, Oct 08, 2004, 23:40:40 ) ( 705 bytes ) file img Re: To post or not to post? is the question... --- Cynthia ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 06:57:51 ) ( 975 bytes ) TO: Godo... --- Cynthia ( Sat, Oct 09, 2004, 08:48:19 ) ( 4475 bytes ) +1 Re: With due respect, you are bordering on giving "satsang" here --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 16:27:05 ) ( 2070 bytes ) +2 How about you, GOK? How well do YOU really know Rawat? --- Jim ( Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 18:42:18 ) ( 796 bytes ) Re: With due respect, you are bordering on giving "satsang" here --- Cynthia ( Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 11:10:38 ) ( 4345 bytes )