I heard those words as I passed by a tent at the 'Big Green Gathering' in Somerset UK, where a program about rawatt was being held (unknown to me). I vaguely recognised the voice, and I certainly recognised the script. Well, it was good old Gurucharanad or should I say Charanand. (At first I thought it was Ron Geaves who also sometimes used top speak in a slight (fake) Indian accent in order to sound Mahatama-like(=====yes yes I know personal comments are not nice, but 'this life' IS personal)).

Anyway, I initially walked away, but could not help but return.
I got back sometime later when he had just finished and people were gathering around him a talking to him.
I asked him publicly what has Maharaji and himself done about 'your friend' Jagedo and announced that Prem is a liar. I also said that the mediation techniques that he ‘gives’ do something for some people but by no means everyone and are not his property.

I heard Charanand say to one of the ushers something like, ‘ speak to that man in private’. I think he is used to people being ushered away, but I continued until the end of what I wanted to say.

I was approached by several members of the audience both during and especially after I finished giving satsang :>)

Most of them were nice to me, on their responses.
During my satsang (or rant if you like), I asked Charand why he doesn’t tell the whole truth. Well of course he ignored me, but here are some the responses I got;

Re: Maharaji not dealing with Jagdeo:
One lady who told me she had got k the day before said “Well, my father raped me when I was a child and I still speak to him” and I said I didn’t see what that had to do with Maharaji letting a known abuser going on tour and in particular running children’s’ satsang. I also said that I hoped she enjoyed the meditation (which can be gotten in many places).

Another comment was ‘Doesn’t everyone make mistakes’.
Yet another comment was ‘Why don’t you speak to Charanand. He has maharaji’s ear’. I said that I never had any contract with Charanand, who I know to be a liar, and was more interested informing people to get better informed about it before they make any decisions (it turned that it was an introductory program). Prem Rawat and his inner circle have had years to come clean. Now they are just another cult doing the same tricks as Scientologists.

Another comment was for me not take Ron Geaves seriously, It was interesting in that I didn’t mention Ron Geaves at all, so I presume the person must read, here.
Also the premies seems to know more about EPO that I did.

A few ‘older’ premies approached me when I was away from the tent and it is interesting that they never even tried to deny any of the stuff and just said to me that they had surrendered and had no choice. At least 2 of them said they had miserable lives except for ‘practising’. The general feeling form the oldies was that ‘we have no choice’, it was heartbreaking. I think many of them are scared people who must be scared of 'Prem's power' (god??).

Also, I met up there with an old ashram colleague who, regarding m & k, had not change done iota. We spent sometime together and I certainly got a lot of insight in the ashram mindset and how it is created. For me, before I found out about Maharaji’s lies, the closing of the ashram was the greatest betrayal, I shall write about this separately in a separate essay, when I have gathered all my observations and thoughts on the subject.

Regards to all

Jethro
A cult is a cult is a cult is a cult.