This fellow Jonx surely is viewing the situation from only his perspective which as you point out is within the cult. There is no way one can be 'objective' about a philosophy or belief system, whilst being immersed in that ideology.

And I whole-heartedly agree that writing a history can only be done by an "OUTSIDE" impartial viewpoint. Neither of which applies here. Arguing this is fruitless as we bring to the table our own perspective which may or may not be slanted. Yes... our own personal experiences are valid enough for each of us to have an opinion and of course first hand knowledge accounts for plenty. Yet... as Jonx can be counted on to always argue the apologist viewpoint and we will debate from our own viewpoint, neither Jonx nor any of us will change our position.

We accomplish only being able to tell another side of the story.... perhaps as Paul Harvey's radio tales always include the statement, "AND NOW..... THE REST... OF THE STORY!"

For the person that is curious about m or k, this forum provides "the rest, of the story".

I wonder if Jonx will take you up on your suggestion to let go of m in order to see whether his wonderful experience remains?

Most of us have found that m has nothing to do with our 'wonderful' experience and that in fact the chains of being bound to m were and are in fact heavier and more costly than the return one gets by remaining bound.

Again... most of us have realized that the so - called 'teacher'
never actually taught us anything ... of value.