Thanks, Ghi, for introducing yourself.  It certainly helps to know a bit about the person you are talking to.

It is pleasant to discuss this topic with somebody who is reasonable and polite.  But it is also frustrating.   It's difficult to get to a meeting of the minds, and it takes a long time.  I am afraid that it is probably not really possible in this forum to come to conclusion.   But still, it is interesting.

I want to go back to my original point.  I am afraid you didn't really get it.   The equation.  This equation is the essence of Rawatism and it goes like this:  Knowledge = the inner experience, or Knowledge = the heart, or Knolwedge = reality.   The question is not whether this equation works well for some people, (which is how you defended it), but whether or not it is true.

You defend Rawatism and Knowledge.  You conclude that it is real.  But I don't think you realize that what you are doing is accepting the equation.  And, unforunately for you, the equation is false.  Mathematics and logic tell us that for an equation to be true, it has to go both ways.  And I would say that even spirituality, if you want to go there, tells us the very same thing.   And I think it is abundantly obvious that reality does not equal Knowledge.  Reality is so much more than Rawatism can ever be.  And thank God for that!  Can you just imagine reality being the province of a man!  It's horrifying.

If you really cared for truth, you probably would never have put on the Rawat glassess in the first place.  I can say the same thing for myself, since I wore them voluntarily.  I really should have known better to have accepted a path on the basis of wishful thinking.  That path lead me right back to where I started, which is the very place where you, Ghi,  also are now standing.  And that place is a place that is somewhere less than God.  Being in this place, there is one thing that we can do.  And you are becoming aware of it.  We can quit struggling.  Let reality be reality, and me be me.  And there it is - the experience!!

You are close, Ghi, to the choice of leaving Rawat and the practice of Knowledge behind.  The rose coloring in your glasses is starting to fade.  The fundamental falsehood of the equation is harder to ignore.  The struggle is almost over.  I want to tell you how much clearer the world becomes without those glasses, but I cannot.  Each person takes them off when all the coloring has just about faded.  And then you will go back and see the techniques as wholly unnecessary (even distracting), and you will see Rawat as the very silly man that he is, and you will be happy that he failed to take away your essence.