"Just like it's not black and white thinking to say all murders are bad."

Of course not, because murder is bad by definition. But Andries is at the stage where he is still trying to establish--with dogged patience--whether or not a 'murder' has taken place.

We've had this stuff going around in our heads for thirty years. Of course it is obvious to us. And while his experience with SSB must give him some insight into our experience, the details will be vastly different.

Some people have been on his case from the get go. Some people have never given him any slack. I remain baffled by the vehemence that has been aimed at Andries from the moment he first posted here. There seems to have been something territorial in the way he was attacked--as if he was intruding on our personal sphere, or as if we had a monopoly on these truths. I remain amazed at his patience.

Neville B