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07/09/2006, 02:56:04
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inviting me to share in self congratulation: to feel with them their sense of one-up-man-ship, I could not stand aloof with them, looking with blurry, half vision at the mere ordinary folk in the high street, doing their mundane things.

I could no longer give the right answers, when they gave the maharaji yes sang. I could no longer support their idea that they were somehow a cut above the rest of humanity, so lucky, so holy.

Their pity on the human race was not for their loneliness or their broken heartedness, not for the struggle of a single parent or the sorrow of one too young to know such pain.

They pitied them with the same pompous religiosity as the disciples who thanked Jesus: "We thank thee Lord that we are not as other men."

They pitied them for not having m and k.

No one could have talked me out of it, I'm too argumentative for that. It was the premies themselves, bless their hearts, who talked me out of it. It is not so much the actual, blind pomposity: the indulgent self interest: the obsessive single subject world view; and many others too numerous to mention, which from each individual had increasingly disturbing effect.

It was more the similarity that ran through them all. The common themes, same sentences, same words and phrases, same mind sets over and over again.

And most sickening of all was when I thought I heard the faint echo of my own past words ringing from their lips. Perhaps it is self hate, but when I realised how much I had helped to perpetuate the myth I became ill.

When, in my efforts, to still love God, during the process of my rejection; I sought refuge from my raging sorrow, like Quatermass, in the church, the premies ridiculed me.

Of course, the same attempts to push belief on newcomers were rife there too, and strengthened by a few kind humans I moved on.

The premies showed their true colours when they thought I had chosen another religion. But when I began to point out, not doubts, but well reasoned arguments that, to my logic, proved that the path of maharaji's knowledge just meanders nowhere, and especially when I began to hint that there were common undesirable traits that were quite easy to perceive in premies all across the board, they went at me from all sides. Now I am alone, my self esteem, self worth, and ability to go out and meet new people have been reduced to zero.

No one talked me out of it, I left in my own time, the forums confirmed my realizations, and made me feel not so alone. I still need to repair my life, your names and lines of text on my computer are all I have now. I do not care so much for this argument with premies,
I was not over a deep depression after Julie, and now I have to say, though I like Sean tremendously, in fact because I like him, as he seems here, I am not feeling good. I have steered clear of premies because they made me feel there was no point in living.

This was my haven, a place in the corner of my own room where the loneliness had been pushed back. Because I love people and because I want to go outside again one day and live in the world again, and be a normal person again, I wish maharaji would stop this torture of souls. I want maharaji to stop this madness now and go 'home'; back to India, change his name, perhaps do gardening or something in Khatmandu.

I have stood all I can bear. Perhaps this an appeal to Sean's compassion. Perhaps it is just an appeal to the human race or any one, I am only human. This has consumed most of my time on earth and all my natural joy and peace and high hopes for mankind. Now I don't know where to turn. Nothing is left.  Only tears today.


Lp






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07/09/2006, 03:07:18
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'[my] ability to go out and meet new people have been reduced to zero'

You exaggerate LP! We met last week - I am a bit old, but new to you! We can meet again, in case you forgot!






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Sorry 13 for exaggerating
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LP ®

07/09/2006, 03:33:15
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Please forgive me, I had not forgotten. 
I slipped back for a moment into an old space.

It was a great relief to meet an ex premie for the first time face to face, and a real pleasure to meet you.

I got too caught up in trying to address the premie mind set, it brought back old memories.

It was indulgent of me to dwell on my negative feelings, so much.

Thanks for reminding me I am not alone anymore.

That period of my life is coming to an end, as I start to meet old premie brothers and sisters on the right side of sanity again.  I have very little self confidence in the outside world but I must start again to trust in basic human nature especially my own.

Lp 








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07/09/2006, 03:35:36
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My dear friend LP,

I am not a premie. First, before anything,
I am a person and I am your brother.
Maybe I have also spent too many hours crying,
trying to answer these posts. If I say anything
here it's going be subject to ridicule. Ocker,
don't miss this, it's your opportunity.
I don't care, this is serious, to me at least.

My brother,

"I'm too argumentative for that". Err, so am I, in case you
had not noticed

"Perhaps it is self hate". I happen to truly know how
this feels, sharply.

"to still love God" You are one of the good guys.
Thank you for being here, I need to hear from people
like you more than anyone else. Thank you.

Sean








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It's time to be selfish...
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Cynthia ®

07/09/2006, 08:05:48
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Hey LP,

I have one piece of advice:  Use the forum to help yourself right now.  If talking to Sean or Julie doesn't feel good to you and isn't helping you, then just don't do it.  After all these years, you're under no obligations anymore except to you and your loved ones.

There have been some of us who have become stressed out while helping new exes (on and off-line) and the answer to that is to take a breather (no pun intended).  My experience with these forums is that if I don't say something to make a point, someone else will. 

This is tough stuff to talk about, especially for someone who, like you, is still working out their involvement. 

Work to make yourself feel better.

Brace yourself, here's a cyberhug coming your way.

Cynthia, I guess that was more than one piece of advice 






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