For the umpteenth time -- what the hell does this mean?
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Yeah but he covers himself with the last line Re: For the umpteenth time -- what the hell does this mean? -- Jim Top of thread Archive Posted by: hamzen ® 04/04/2006, 03:40:44 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin And thats what Joss'd say, one slick sneaky bugger when it comes to language that one. I also suspect it's his main strength, he's always talked out of both sides of his mouth for sure, way back in the day too, and I'd like to know where he learnt that one from, he certainly didn't learn it from his old man. I suspect it was when he hit the west and the media, and he saw the angle they were coming from and decided to get a bit cagey and cover his tracks just a bit so he could always deflect. And you can't arghue with that as a strategy, it's worked for 30 years plus. Previous Recommend Current page Next good point hamzen Re: Yeah but he covers himself with the last line -- hamzen Top of thread Archive Posted by: aunt bea ® 04/04/2006, 04:56:14 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin I've often wondered about that myself. It seems hard to believe that he wasn't coached at some point when he was young, maybe by his older brother or one of the big cheese mahatmas. But I guess it isn't really a big deal after all. There is a whole tradition of more or less self-taught firebrand preachers in the States who are very clever in their rhetoric. I remember watching a documentary about Al Sharpton, who is kind of an annoying and loudmouth preacher cum civil rights advocate. I kind of like him just because he is so abbrasive and really gets on people's nerves. You just gotta love a guy like that. Anyway he was apparenty an very persuasive and powerful preacher in his church as a young boy. I didn't get the feeling that he was coached, but it just came natural to him. He is just a born rabble rouser. The same could be true of Malibu Prem. Previous Recommend Current page Next learning to speak to the faithfull Re: good point hamzen -- aunt bea Top of thread Archive Posted by: AJW ® 04/04/2006, 06:12:29 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin Hi, I would imagine he spent quite a bit of time watching his dad in satsang, at programmes and in the ashram, before he was pushed in front of a microphone himself. People would have been eager to explain to him what was going on- in their premielike way- so it would have been natural at some point for him to have a go himself. The feedback he received, from the first time he "gave satsang" was probably immense and positive, encouraging him to go on and on and on, until DVDs and cheap satellite TV channels were invented and he didn't need to show up in person anymore. Thinking about it, his three brothers were probably going through the same things when they grew up. Two of them turned out to be pretty poor public speakers. The eldest wasn't too bad and became a Lord of the Universe himself. So what's my point here? I dunno. anth who has a brother too Previous Recommend Current page Next Re: He learnt it reasonably quickly Re: Yeah but he covers himself with the last line -- hamzen Top of thread Archive Posted by: Ocker ® 04/04/2006, 16:45:51 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin I've been thinking about this recently as I've been going through my little bits of video I've collected over the years, the LOTU video, the Aliens video, bits that Drek has posted, Passages, etc collecting them to put on a single DVD. The really early stuff he was quite straightforward about saying anything outrageous though he was still coy when non-premies asked him straight out if he was God. While we can read that his Father was very straightforward in claimng divinity for himself those few printed bits of his satsang we have give have no idea what he might have been saying the other 99% of the time and Prem might have learnt how to handle difficult questions from seeing how his Dad did. It seems he learnt at Millenium judging from the LOTU video that he couldn't handle difficult questions but I wonder if the decision had already been made to pull the cord on a difficult interview because Prem seems content to go along with one of his flunkies ending the interview rather than confidently going on answering questions. I'm also wondering who taught him to talk about the "experience" so much later in the 70's. It seems the really early satsang is just Indian religious stuff and then he starts getting into the experiential aspects of practising and surrender more and more. This is all a bit hazy. I understand that many people probably couldn't care less but I tend to focus on random thoughts at times. Previous Recommend Current page Next Jim, you just don't get it do you? Re: For the umpteenth time -- what the hell does this mean? -- Jim Top of thread Archive Posted by: AJW ® 04/04/2006, 05:28:28 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin Hi Jim, It's obvious. You hang on to your dick at the moment of death. anth, who didn't come into the world empty handed. Previous Recommend Current page Next