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Why isn't the MSM carrying this QAnon story about the Suez ship????
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eDrek ®

04/01/2021, 16:24:03
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Suez ship baselessly linked to QAnon conspiracy theory about Clintons

And exactly why isn't the MSM running with this QAnon story. It just has to be true!


Here's some of the juicy quotes:

QAnon-linked social media posts seek to tie the Clintons to a ship that blocked the Suez Canal, saying the vessel has been used for human trafficking. The Clinton Foundation, however, says it has no ships, while an international maritime safety agency and an anti-trafficking group told AFP there is no information to support the claims, which the shipping line dismissed as baseless.

“Many children were shipped via the Clinton Foundation’s Evergreen,” says a March 28, 2021 Instagram video post, viewed more than 10,000 times, which inaccurately refers to the Ever Given by the name of its operator, Taiwan-based Evergreen Line.

“Many were drugged and literally taped up,” alleges the video, which includes a picture of former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and a photo of an Evergreen container ship.




And here's a link to the Qanon video, but I could not make it work.







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04/02/2021, 02:23:07
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Well, obviously because the MSM is in on it. And there are definitely taped and drugged children stuffed into those containers headed for the Clinton child sex slave organisation. Definitely, or explain this to me? Why haven't the containers been opened in front of cameras so we can see what's inside? Well then.






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04/02/2021, 17:26:31
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13, those poor slave children aside, don't you think that America has really upped the level of play across the globe with the belief in QAnon?

I guess, however, that people of other times might have fallen for some strange belief systems. But, we HAVE Science. We're smarter than them. Right?






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04/02/2021, 19:42:05
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It seems to be very addictive.  I lived through the start of the pandemic with an American woman who informed me of things completely contradictory like the virus is a hoax and Trump was amazing for closing the border with China so fast.

Now I am understanding it is a path they are taken on, delicious thrills.  the horror of it all.  the shaking in your boots, the upliftment, the sense of superiority - they're being played.

And then the loop is closed - MSM is not to be listened to.

it gets eerie when you realise there are numbers of people who are believing the same odd things at the same time.

For ages I thought MSM might be something to do with messages until finally I worked out it meant main stream media.  this includes all news broadcast on tv including the ABC. 






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04/03/2021, 02:13:47
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It's hard to imagine the perspective from which these mad beliefs seem valid. But then, I remember the exasperation of my Dad, in the face of four sons telling him some Indian kid was the Lord of the Universe, on the evidence of some secret knowledge that can only be experienced on the inside, that is, subjectively. We were basing our objective realities on a mad illogical interpretation of a subjective experience. Science didn't help. I gained a science degree in the thick of it. I understood genetics and biochemistry and evolution, and there was no room or need for a lord of the universe with that understanding. And yet I was able to compartmentalise to still have room for those mad beliefs. I'd read somewhere that it was a sign of maturity to be able to sustain conflicting beliefs at the same time. So I took that idea on board right away. I had the conflicting beliefs, so it was easier to not analyse that little declaration and regard it as an acceptance of a complex world, rather than let the ideas clash and see what stands at the end of some effort of objective analysis.

Anyway, with the news of the stuck ship, I understand why the delivery of the slave children I ordered from the Clinton foundation has been delayed.






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04/03/2021, 10:31:39
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Lesley and 13,

Yes, it always comes down to people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

We were in a cult that makes QAnon seem somewhat reasonable. It's easy to go down the slippery slope.






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04/03/2021, 21:18:47
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In the early days of exiting I would meet Macgregor for a regular coffee, he was still a premie but facing up to it all and he said to me that he had heard that being able to entertain two conflicting beliefs at the same time was a sign of genius!

I don't think I was believing two things though - it was just that I had a fresh memory of what it was like to be a premie.  

I think it's only natural to have a structure that supports belief in that one person beyond all and that's what the guru grafted onto.  we were probably a bit young to make an effective analysis, well mine consisted of thinking 6 million people can't be wrong.  and we're almost trained at that age to over-ride gut instinct in favour of authority.

My dad complained too - said he had a screechy voice and was only in it for the rolls royces and I was a contemptible fool.

I think that's a bit harsh though because it was through my finest qualities that I was fooled.








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The origin story of QAnon is really bizarre.
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04/04/2021, 16:29:23
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I had looked into this maybe a month back or so. I should have posted that here at the time. (or did I?) I wasn't so interested in the actual beliefs because they are just ridiculous. But I was interested to understand the mechanics and logistics of how the messages were spread and where they came from. When I looked into it, it was much weirder than I expected, but actually I realised I shouldn't have been surprised. So here in a nutshell:

1. The original QAnon poster started on that strange internet forum called 4chan. At the time there was a whole genre of posters with handles like FBIAnon, CIAAnon, etc. So QAnon didn't stand out and probably the posters and readers there didn't take any of it seriously. But then along the way certain people started promoting and amplifying QAnon.

2. Then 4chan imploded and people started moving to 8chan. Now 8chan was started by a very freaky incel guy who has the real-life affliction of brittle bones like in the movie Unbreakable. His forum began to explode and get super nasty. He started getting disgusted by it and also started having his own internal transformation to a more healthy mindset. 

3. At some point he ended up selling it to some other weird and mysterious character who lived in the Philippines. So he sells it to this guy and as part of the deal moves to the Philippines to basically run it for its new owner or something like that. As he continues to get disgusted by it, he tries to convince the new owner to shut it down. But now it has become his big cash cow, so this isn't going to happen.

4. The new owner has essentially been running porn sites for decades and it even seems like he had child porn websites, though he denies that. He certainly has dodgy URLs registered by his company, so it seems likely.

5. At some point the style of the QAnon poster's writing style changes and it seems like this new owner or his son are at the very least controlling the new version of Q if not writing the posts themselves. They are also apparently making lots of money from it.

6. The original brittle bones guy is now trying to unmask the whole operation and the identity of Q. 

7. So it looks like we have a guy who made his living from porn and maybe even child porn spreading and perhaps even creating a mythology about evil child sex traffickers -- for the power and money he gets out of it.

The whole thing is so outlandish but then weirdly just makes perfect sense. It would be second nature for someone in the child porn business to then create a story demonising it for his own advantage. 

I don't have the original links, but I guess it doesn't take to much googling around to find them.






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lesley ®

04/04/2021, 16:58:29
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ah that's interesting.  it's odd though, there must be a more sanitised outlet.  Maybe several.  The two people I know don't know each other but share some characteristics which I guess could get them into the same chat rooms.  They are not natural Trump supporters but still they are now and believe he will save the world with inventions from Nikolai Tesla via John Trump.  go figure.  MSM is vigorously demonised.






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04/04/2021, 17:27:31
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Wow, I guess it's just that simple - a purveyor of porn selling new and improved porn.






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