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After two terms of President Donald Trump we're going to have two terms of President Roy Moore!!!
Yay!!!! Good times!!! Make America Great Again!!!
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I wonder, Make America great again, when was it great? What period does this refer to? Any idea? I don't.
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Lots of chest thumping after WWII. To a large degree the US has been living off this ever since.
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Industry and innovation were taking off then, but there was still close to apartheid in the south. So yeah, apart from the situation with the black folk in the south and the environmental costs, great.
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I posed this question a few times on here during the election and the Trump supporter(after Ted Cruz lost) would never answer. I'd say based on the slavery, and genocides, which have never ended it never was. Of course there might have been rough tribal wars before it was called Amerika, and can easily be argued that on a comparative basis.... Just because there isn't starvation or Hutu's and Tutsi's with machetes, I refuse to call a place great as merely a comparison. I still think to this day the place has, like everywhere the potential to be great.
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Yes, make America great might be a worthwhile ambition.
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Oh no! We've been bad talking about things other than Islam. Ok, nose to the grindstone. Back on Islam. No more talking about Roy Moore. The subject has now been changed.
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Why isn't this in a new thread? What's this to do with the greatness of America? That WAS the subject.
And what's the big deal anyway? She's a crazy outlier. Doesn't mean all muslims are bad. Doesn't mean all Labour is anti-semitic. Doesn't mean the UK is screwed. It means there's a crazy outlier. Jeremy has been notified, so it'll all be fine.
To: “jeremy.corbyn.mp@parliament.uk” <jeremy.corbyn.mp@parliament.uk> Subject: Nasreen Khan/ Naz Kahn Dear Mr Corbyn, I write to you with the gravest of concerns regarding one of the shortlisted candidates Nasreen Khan (previously known as Naz Khan/ Naz Kahn) for the Bradford constituency of Little Horton. In the past, Ms Khan has expressed deeply anti Semitic views and as a Respect activist, and has worked tirelessly to harass and bully at least two local women (apart from me) over a period of 5 years. In the 2017 General Election, Ms Khan supported Salma Yaqoob against Naz Shah at local hustings. In fact, Ms Khan claimed that Naz Shah’s claims of harassment & bullying were false and that she herself had never experienced any kind of harassment and bullying. That is not surprising in the least given that Ms Khan herself was responsible for the harassment and bullying of many people while she was a member of the Respect Party and the Respect Women’s Officer. This harassment includes online and physical. In order to give you a small flavour of the kind of harassment that Ms Khan has engaged in against me, here are a few examples; in 2014, I was subjected to a violent attack by Ms Khan at a local swimming pool, which was reported to the local police. In December of the same year, Ms Khan rang and cancelled an event for child victims of sexual violence that I had organised at the University of Bradford by impersonating me. She has also harassed other organisations that have been associated with me, including the Birmingham based Amira Foundation both on social media and by contacting them directly. In previous years, she has been the subject of legal proceedings and was given an injunction preventing her from contacting a vulnerable, elderly woman whose doors and windows were smashed in on the alleged orders of Ms Khan. Ms Khan has never apologised for her openly anti Semitic views and has only now denounced those views in light of her potential deselection. Her backtracking of her racist and facist- supporting views seems suspiciously and conveniently timed. It would seem that the local party have not conducted the requisite background checks. Had they done so, all of this and more information would have emerged thus negating Ms Khan suitability to stand as a councillor for the Labour Party. I now urge you to take a decisive step and distance yourself from a candidate who has consistently shown herself to be a racist, a supporter of fascism and a Holocaust denier. Kind regards Aisha Ali-Khan.
Modified by 13 at Sun, Nov 12, 2017, 01:58:18
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Maybe anti-Semitic Corbyn will think this anti-Semitic Muslim’s a bit too hot to handle, so maybe he’ll get rid of her. Who cares when he’s got such a rich bench:
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Who cares what Prince Charles wrote to his friend in 1986? You're linking his antisemitism expressed 31 years ago to what this woman said last week in Bradford. That's the trouble with sites like JihadWatch - they gather up everything they can use to promote their view, and then, because it's all collected there on the same site, it looks like it's all part of the same thing, like here you are suggesting the antisemitism from Prince Charles 31 years ago and this woman in Bradford last week is somehow related, as if this exposes antisemitism in Britain as a constant conspiracy. What a crap theory.
What a shame you didn't try to stay on topic, and elucidate on the greatness of America, when it was, what was so great about it and what Herr Trump is doing that's going to make America great again. But you read such sites concatenating unrelated events and you're lost, hardly able to have a conversation without condemning Muslims, lefties and defending Jews against every perceived slight.
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You act like the letter’s old news but it’s just been discovered. So what? It’s not newsworthy then? Of course it is. It all goes into the mix. As does the BBC’s ongoing anti Semitic reporting or do you deny that too?
My point in interjecting this is because your country’s sadly in far worse circumstances than either the US or Canada but you’re oblivious to the alarming trends of amassing PC tyranny. That’s all. A bit of fun, eh? Clearly the BBC is lying here, right? Downright malicious distortion of history to erase the Jews? Right? Right?
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It’s a dilemma. The woman’s claim can’t be tested before the election. She could be telling the truth. She could be lying. She could be mistaken or any number of combinations. Surely the WP has avoided reporting any of the newly emerging reasons to doubt her. They’re blatantly partisan in their anti-Trump, anti-Republican, anti-Moore agenda. So what to do? What would you have suggested if he was a Dem? Abandon the race even if he’s innocent?How convenient.
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Check out this insightful link, Jim.
I think you're just spouting the Republican and Breitbart/Bannon party line here. Wait, some of the decent Republicans are telling Moore that they don't support his effort.
'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
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When the exposure of right wing running pedophiles for senate and defending them, plus charges and guilty pleas by Trump people is current, I guess it's time to whip out 31 year old things on Charles. Meanwhile, all environmental protections get tossed. At least stick with fake stories on Hillary, same century at least.
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Alabama state official defends Roy Moore, citing Joseph and Mary: ‘They became parents of Jesus"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/11/09/alabama-state-official-defends-roy-moore-citing-joseph-and-mary-they-became-parents-of-jesus/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.db10834e56bf
BIGGEST LAUGH ALL DAY.
An Alabama state official on Thursday dismissed a Washington Post report alleging that GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore had initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl decades ago, saying there was an age gap between the biblical Joseph and Mary. The Post also alleged that Moore had pursued three others when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s. “Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus,” Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler told The Washington Examiner. “There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.”
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But Bannon and Roy are busy fixing this. Besides I don't think the voters of Alabama will care about a 32 year old man fondling a 14 year old girl in his home. The age of consent in Alabama is 16, which seems ridiculously young to me.
Modified by eDrek at Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 10:35:57
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"It was common knowledge that Roy Moore dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird," Jones told CNN. "We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall ... but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that."
This story is posted on The Hill, but the source is really CNN.
Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
Also, it all seems to fit a pattern as Roy Moore is 14 years older than his wife, Kayla.
Part of the defense from Moore’s allies included the age difference between Roy and Kayla Moore, which stands at 14 years between the 70-year-old Roy and the 56-year-old Kayla. However, the comparison was not a close one, as Kayla Kisor was 24 years old and a legal adult when she married the then-38-year-old Roy Moore in 1985.
Kayla Moore, Roy’s Wife: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Modified by eDrek at Sun, Nov 12, 2017, 10:41:39
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Even if true these are relatively minor sexual transgressions. I'm not condoning them and if he's lying that's another layer of bad but they're minor compared to Bill's history of violent rape for instance. Right?
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Even if true these are relatively minor sexual transgressions.
Right, totally minor and meaningless for a guy who puts up a monument of the 10 Commandments in front of the Alabama Supreme Court building.
And then you deflect to Bill Clinton, I assume. Hey, Jim, this has nothing to do with Bill Clinton. Stay on topic, please.
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You're so funny, Drek. Your hypocrisy is outrageous. For instance, after ridiculously asserting that you reject anything the Hill reports because in your view it's not a real news organization, what with its conservative ties and all, you then cite it as evidence to support your rant against Moore.
Surely you can see that this makes you look like a bit of a clown, eh?
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Go for it, Jim. Make a FEDERAL case about which link I used and call me a hypocrite to make this issue go away. Blame the messenger!
Sorry, Jim, I originally saw the story on CNN and I should have simply posted the CNN link. Nope, but I Googled to see who else was carrying this or had this info and your 'The Hill' had it and I thought maybe if I post the link from 'The Hill' Jim will more easily read and enjoy the story about Moore's former colleague. And I clearly stated "This story is posted on The Hill, but the source is really CNN."
So, I made a mistake, Jim. And now you go totally overboard and start calling me names and use abusive rhetoric by calling my post a rant.
All classics from Jim's Playbook of Nasty Forum Behavior.
But none of your gamesmanship, Jim, changes what Moore's former colleague said about Moore. Why would a former colleague say those things? Is he a Democrat? Is he being paid by WaPo or the DNC? Come on, Jim, gin up an excuse for this guy and stop using me as a reason not to consider what this guy said.
FROM CNN Jim: Ex-colleague: Moore dated high school girls
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