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Certainly not what we hear often in the US. Lots of little kids suffering.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/39104-gazans-struggle-in-10th-year-of-israeli-blockade
Related link: Life in Gaza
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Certainly not what we hear often in the U.S. Lots of little kids suffering because they and their parents are brainwashed by a death cult ideology:
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=846
Related link: http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=846
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....peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.
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Would one expect Golda to say anything else? This is not breaking news.
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This is a discussion forum , not a "breaking news " forum.
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My point was why think a politician has anything honest to say beyond self interest. Should be obvious.
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That's an inane accusation.
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So you are saying an Israeli politician speaks truth anymore than any other politician who seeks to remain in power? Tell them what they want to hear!
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You need to believe that one is righteous.....one is evil. WHY?
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Gaza is under constant humanitarian crisis, created mostly by Israel. It has begun when most of the southern Palestinians population was expelled toward it in 1948 and it just collapsed under the flood of refugees. Since then it serves as the punch bag of Israel, whenever it needs, Israel also tries its new weapons it buys from the USA on Gaza people while committing terrible war crimes, see last attacks on Gaza and how many civilians and kids were murdered by Israeli pilots and soldiers.
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Very interesting Jim....however I must observe that RFK was very young and, for that reason, his judgement and conclusions may not have always reflected reality....and he saw it all through the filter of an Irish/American viewpoint....just saying.
I enjoyed reading it and thanks for posting it.
My Jewish Grandfather was a Fleet Street journalist at this time . My mother told me he was never a Zionist and felt that the Jewish homeland would never work ( and he was quite religious....kosher, fast keeping, sent all his kids to the synagogue etc ).
I quickly looked for some more information for another viewpoint, and found this link
Related link: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2013/02/07/palestine-how-bad-and-good-was-british-rule/
Modified by lexy at Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 08:20:46
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This year is the 100 year Anniversary of the Balfour Declaration. As you are no doubt aware. Misunderstandings, poor translations of English to Arabic, intentions misconstrued, diplomatic skulduggery etc between her Majesty's Government representatives, King Hussein and the Zionists contributed to the unholy mess 100 years later. The Balfour Declaration was a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. It read: His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
The text of the letter was published in the press one week later, on 9 November 1917. The "Balfour Declaration" was later incorporated into both the Sèvres peace treaty with the Ottoman Empire, and the Mandate for Palestine. The original document is kept at the British Library. The Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali al-Hashimi and other Arab leaders considered the Declaration a violation of previous agreements made in the McMahon-Hussein correspondence
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I found it really interesting, Lexy. And compelling - right up to the punch line in the end when she blames the settlements and trivializes Arab violence as a mere throwaway concern to mention almost in passing when opining on the current situation. Then I looked her up and see that she's a "human rights" activist as well as author. No wonder the word "Islam" never appears in her work.
RFK may have had his own bias against the Brits but that doesn't explain away the quotes.
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Ironic that it seems worse than the ghettos created by Hitler for the Jews.
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Modified by DCcultmember at Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 18:37:54
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Yes, Miri, you self-hating Jew you, absolutely. The saddest day ever was when Israel declared its independence and was not destroyed in the process. You must feel so much pain ...... HAHAHAHA
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You seem to demonstrate that behavior as you show no sympathy for the residents of Gaza and their treatment by Israel. I don't defend Hamas but suggest they only exist as a power in Gaza because of the Israeli control......chicken or egg debate, eh!
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It is true, Israel supported Hamas in order to weaken Arafat at that time, a known shtick. Later, when it won the election because Ashaf was so weak, due to Israeli policy it became the most favorable enemy of Israel, which from time to time rage a war against Gaza. Read what Israel does to fishermen trying to earn their living, how it denies fishing rights that Israel itself Agreed to, how Israel shoots at them, and confiscate their boats. What does not published at the mainstream news are the constant provocations of the army, killing everyone who is gets near the fence in order to cultivate their land. No wonder that after so many provocations a missile is sent towards us, usually not causing any damage but being an excuse to start a terrible war like the last one. This is not meant for you Jim, do not bother to react, I am only a self hating Jew - meaning a Jew that respect human rights and morality, when it is violated. I am glad to see that there are people who don't buy the media's twisted presentation of truth.
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All my Jewish friends hate the Israeli government too. Thanks for your insights.
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Jim, rude derision doesn't persuade. Civility remains important: agree to disagree, yes, but throwing vomit at people you've known (at least on-line) for 10-15 yrs? That's my main point. As to the debate about Israel's mistreatment of the Palestinians -- removing the Palestians forcibly from their long-held homesteads is wrong, just wrong, and causes further strife. To justify it based on 2500-4000 yr old religious beliefs doesn't make it ok. Nor does justifying it based on the horrors of WW2, etc. It was wrong when settlers did it to Australian aborigines, it was wrong when settlers did it to the First Peoples of Canada, it was wrong when settlers did it to Native Americans of the US, Mexico, Cuba, South America, etc. But back then, those communities were crushed/wiped out by those taking over their long-held homes. In the 20th and 21st century, the Palestinian and other Arab communities within Israel had more ability to protest. Human rights violations are wrong, wherever they take place, and can't be justified.
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You're totally misrepresenting how and before. So why should I take you seriously? I don't.
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It is about time that the world's nations will stop to exempt Israel on the ground of how much the Jews suffered on WWII. We got our money from Germany, now it is time to behave like human beings.
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all a bunch of crazy that need to be erased from the planet, with all other muslims if possible. While Jewish state is allowed to carry on with its war-mongering behaviour. By the way Israel does not hesitate to sell weapons to any state that carries out a civil-war and crimes against humanity.
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I only fear it will worsen under Trump. It was bad enough that Obama just signed off on a 38 billion military gift to them, the largest ever. That kind of lessens the meager gesture of simply abstaining in a UN vote and going along with the world for once in condemning the terrible apartheid government there. I have friends that got arrested by the military on one of those humanitarian supply ships. I really appreciate your thoughts.
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and now they remove a Bedouin village in order to resettle there only Jews. I am so ashamed.
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2017/01/20/israeli-border-police-executed-bedouin-um-al-hiran-doctored-video-footage/
Modified by snow-white at Sat, Jan 21, 2017, 00:21:39
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Yet another example of the predatory nature of the Israeli government under the guise of defensive action.
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He's notorious. Not just for this either. I'm not surprised that you like him though:
http://honestreporting.com/tag/richard-silverstein/
On a substantive basis, the whole argument's the same crap you and your friends have been trying to sell for years.
Related link: http://honestreporting.com/tag/richard-silverstein/
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Jim lives in Canada and obviously has a better understanding of life in your part of the world than you do.
Is there a newspaper there that Jim might disagree with?
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I woke up long time ago Augie. No use arguing with Jim, I stopped it years ago.
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That was DC who said that, but I mostly agree with him on things too.
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Which isn't surprising. "Honestreporting" is absolutely not an unbiased site. Right-wing Israeli propaganda. If you look at settlement expansion from a human rights (moral) standpoint - it's wrong, no different than stealing and murdering, and justifying it for selfish ends. I admire Snow-white for being an Israeli who dares to oppose the current right-wing regime there. And I continue appreciate her years of comments and links. Jim, your credibility is limited, to me, because it devalues the value of each human life.
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If you want to play this game, go for it. Debunk any of the articles on Honest Reporting about Silverstein. Debunk their facts or debunk their analysis. I'll get into it with you. You're either right or I am.
Or would you prefer to play the lefty slur game without rational analysis?
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Nice, Zelator. Far left cult members don't care about facts but for the rest of us, that says it all.
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