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Re: Guru Maharaj Ji = Prem Rawat = Living Perfect Master, not dead... -- Cynthia Top of thread Forum
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10/16/2004, 21:54:27
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Further, the whole premise for Prem Rawat being the Lord Incarnate or even simply Guru Maharaj Ji, was that his father was no longer alive and the entire emphasis was ALWAYS that we had a living perfect master to follow: HIM.

A Guru Maharaj Ji is a Guru Maharaj Ji is a Guru Maharaj Ji.

Is there any doubt that Rawat was once known as Guru Maharaj Ji? No. Rawat's father was his "Guru Maharaj Ji" but it was always clear that like father like son.

In his "Peace Bomb" speech Rawat, then called Guru Maharaj Ji, makes clear: "The Lord, Guru Maharaj Ji, has brought the same Grace with Him that He brought for us before, and if you are not receiving it then come to me."

Therefore Rawat stated unequivocably that he is offering the same as "The Lord, Guru Maharaj Ji." So while it is true that in this speech (linked below) Rawat also refers to Guru Maharaj Ji as his father, it is clear that he is also presenting himself as Guru Maharaj Ji. In fact, not being prone to understatement, he even likens himself to Krishna and Rama and the like. We are left with little doubt that Guru Maharaj Ji and these super avatar action stars are in the same cosmic league.

There is absolutely no way that a person could listen to any of the dozens of speeches Rawat made when he was known as Guru Maharaj Ji and feel that there was any ambiguity about whether or not Rawat thought about himself as Guru Maharaj Ji. For the fun of it I have provided a few of the juicier quotes from this one speech that makes this abundantly clear:

"Guru Maharaj Ji is such an ocean of Grace, what shall I say of Him? How is it possible to understand Him? No ordinary person can sing about the love within him, about the love of Guru Maharaj Ji; only a true devotee of Guru Maharaj Ji can sing about it. If you do not obey what Maharaj Ji says, what is the use of your living in this world? Rather you should die of shame! Now Guru Maharaj Ji has come. Whenever He came before, you did not accept Him. Now I have come again to reveal the Knowledge, and still you do not understand me." No question mark about who is Guru Maharaj Ji here.

"So, dear premies, receive this Knowledge, and those who have received this Knowledge must meditate and have Guru Maharaj Ji's darshan." Well, he can't be referring to having the darshan of the dead Guru Maharaj Ji can he?

"I possess such a Knowledge that with it I can control the whole world, from ants to elephants, from men to animals, from birds to mosquitoes, by tying them in the thread of love. I have this Knowledge and to give you this Knowledge I have come to Delhi. The very same Knowledge Krishna gave to Arjuna and Lord Rama gave to Hanuman." Hmmmmm, then that must mean that Guru Maharaj Ji is . . .

"I too have a slogan: give me your love and I will give you peace. Surrender the reins of your life unto me and I will give you such peace as will never die. Come to me, and I will give you liberation. Place the reins of your life in my hands, and I will relieve you of your suffering." Promises, promises.

"My condition now is the same as Lord Shiva's once was. Lord Shiva and His consort Parvati were once going along with a bull." . . . blah, blah, blah - sounds like bull to me.

"I declare that I will establish peace in this world. Just give me the reins and let me rule and I will rule in such a way that even Rama, Hariscandra, Krishna and other kings could not have ruled like that!" Talk about name dropping . . .

"But when the Lord saw that the troubles His devotees were having to endure had reached the final point, He said, "My devotees can bear it no longer", and then manifested Himself in a human body. So He has now come to reveal the lost Knowledge and to restore true peace. The Lord, the True Saint, the True Guru Maharaj Ji has incarnated in this world." A sneaky switch into the present tense leaves no doubt dear devotees . . .

"Make them understand He has come to reveal the Knowledge, that He has come to show us the True Path, and if you truly give me the reins of your life, I swear by Guru Maharaj Ji, I take an oath on Guru Maharaj Ji, and I swear by my mother who has give me birth, that I will give you peace. If with a true heart you give me the reins of your life, place them in my hands, you will be saved." nudge, nudge, wink, wink.





Related link: http://www.ex-premie.org/papers/peaceb.htm
Modified by Duh! at Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 22:05:35

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