A few times now I've tried to post on the Prem Rawat talk page on Wikipedia only to be blocked because I'm supposedly linked to some SPAM page or something. You know what that means by chance?
Anyway, this last time I was trying to say something to Momento's latest incisive comments to you. He said:
Andries, four points
# for your information Krishna was not God, Krishna was a Guru who taught about God. And PR was a Guru who teaches about God.
# please clarify what you mean by a "divine Incarnation". In the Peace Bomb talk PR says "So dear premies, receive this Knowledge and know God within yourself. That pure energy, God, is within your own heart", clearly we are also divine.
# for the sake of clarity please indicate in you edit that PR did more than "address" the claims, he denied them.
# and most impportantly PR stated very clearly that he wasn't God before the media and others started suggesting he was ie they deliberately falsified what PR was saying.[[User:Momento|Momento]] 01:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Momento,
In fact, according to Wikipedia, Krishna was God!
Krishna (कृष्ण in Devanagari, IAST kṛṣṇa) is according to common Hindu tradition the eighth avatar of Vishnu. In Gaudiya Vaishnavism, he is seen as the Supreme Person (God) and thus the origin of all other incarnations.
But then, just like you say, he was also a Guru who taught about God, again, just like you say Rawat is. See how someone can actually be not one but actually two things both at the same time? Isn't that something, Momento? There should be a Wikipedia article about this, don't you think? I do. I think there should be a big, fat Wikipedia article to explain how someone can be, for example, both a man and a soccer player all at the same time. Would you help me edit an article like that? See, I'm not so good analyzing things like you are and I've already proven to be just plain miserable at writing with an NPOV. But you're amazing, Momento. Absolutely amazing.
Anyway, this article should now state that Prem Rawat, like Krishna, was both God and a Guru who taught about God, don't you think?
We can work on this other article I've been thinking of about the phrase "talking out of both sides of one's mouth" later, okay? Because I think that one needs to understand that concept to properly track Rawat's various statements, if you know what I mean. But then maybe you don't because we don't have the article yet.
Your (junior) brother in NPOV,
Jim Heller
