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Hi Jim It is really interesting to note the similarities between Scientology and Prem Rawat. Blatent abuse of IRS status, continued manipulation of laws (for instance the DMCA procedures), stifling of people's free speech rights, scaremongering, the whole kit and kaboodle. The following link is the South Park skit that Scientology has so many problems with. http://www.scientomogy.com/south_park_scientology.php T
Modified by T at Sat, Mar 04, 2006, 17:09:49
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You might put up a health warning in future, on a link like that. I got dehydrated half way through, but had to keep going.
Masturbation is an overt -- strictly forbidden
in Scientology, as Hubbard believed that it can slow one's process
to enlightenment.
I'll bet Tom Cruise has a big issue with that one. Probably cost him upwards of a large wedge to get it sorted, but can he ever be sure that he won't do it again....lol.
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A few weeks before I met the premie who "satsanged" me for the first time,I was solicited,on Tottenham Court Road, by Scientologists to answer a questionnaire. I was a teenager and did it for the sake of some attention and out of curiosity.Once I had completed the form they (two or three serious young men) analysed it and told me the result. At the time I thought they were creepily nasty...seeming to take everything I had replied in it's worst possible interpretation or in a way that I couldn't even understand was related to my answer. It made me shudder and I couldn't wait to get out of there and take a shower. The premie method of recruiting was ,in a way, far more dishonest and effective. The spiel ( "satsang" ) made me feel special, wanted and good.I was naive enough to be taken in by the smiles. The shuddering came much later when I was too frightened to leave.
Modified by Lexy at Mon, Mar 06, 2006, 06:15:47
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You wrote, "The shuddering came much later when I was too frightened to leave." By the way, since you are interested in the subject and know quite a lot about English as a second language, has my English improved since I first posted here? Thanks, Andries
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........What I meant was....the Scientologists I met in Tottenham Court Rd seemed to me to be sinister from the start. They openly stated that ,according to their interpretation of my questionnaire responses , I had all kinds of negative attributes to my personality which needed "fixing". They criticised me, when they had only met me 15 minutes before, and I felt tricked and hostile towards them from that moment.Their cult held no attraction for me. On the other hand ,the premie I met was all smiles and kind and loving towards me.Quite the opposite of criticising me, he told me that I was perfect and that I could experience that perfection if I received Guru Maharaj Ji's "knowledge".It really did "light me up" in the sense of making me feel warm and happy. The dark side of following the Guru emerged gradually after this. By "dark side" ,I mean believing the Guru was somehow "divine", surrendering my life,suppressing my "mind",giving up my worldly goods,obeying the Guru's commands,working for nothing(service),being prepared to cut off my arm for knowledge. By the time I reached the stage of learning all this crap it was too late to leave as I was too frightened of disobeying the LOTU ( we learned in "Satsang" that we musn't waste this precious human body,which we had ONLY for the purpose of surrendering to the LOTU/Perfect Master...otherwise we were the same as pigs and goats ) I was very impressionable at that age and the perceived consequences of leaving frightened me; and staying made me shudder.
Modified by Lexy at Wed, Mar 08, 2006, 09:39:29
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Lexy, I am sorry to hear that your experience in the DLM and Elan Vital was in a certain way a negative one. I think we all have bad luck in certain things. That is life, I guess. My bad luck with SSB is, as will be clear, one of the reasons why I post here. Andries
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