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motivating theme of “The Dream”; questioning those present as to what our individual-dream might be (in
regard to propogation). We were asked to describe (as individuals) our dream; The following dreams were expressed: ...............
past 12 months:
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-5000 viewing each
screening -749 requested
Discovering More Package -Of the above, 56
began the keys /…16 of which received Knowledge
/ ….8 of these came to Knowledge Review…….(.of these , 4 were familiar
with premies.) 8 new premies/year ........... not that bad !!
I won't go into calculations, but those 8 guys should really be thankful in respect to the millions of $$ spent to bring them the free knowledge !!
How many left the fold or died during that same year ?
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Those are more comforting figures.
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I've not updated that page for a while,
(in spite of numerous reports that have been copied on the forum)
maybe it deserves it after all !!
Related link: Ev's frenzy
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for taking the trouble to put those pages together on EPO in the first place. They were really helpful Tim
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My understanding is that rank and file premies are (have always been - at least since the end of the glorious 70s) manipulated to keep the boat afloat (barely in most cases - sunk in several places).
That's the condition for the few wealthy premies and inner circle's / closest diehard to flatter and feed the 'master'. Those would surely leave if the glorious facade starts to fall in pieces. And that costs millions !!
That's rawatism's reality .....
Modified by Jean-Michel at Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 05:20:13
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For one old friend in particular who fits this description. The hold on him must be particularly tenacious. Surely he must have noticed: and realized by now; that something isn't right.
Not that I don't feel the same for some poorer old friends in the same boat.
Particularly I hang my head for those, (you know who you are) whom I found and brought and convinced with my sorely misguided words.
I can't express to them or us, the particularly horrible knot I have in my stomach, right now, to write this, or how hot my tears feel.
(Aside to them):
"I hope you don't see my sincere efforts to rescue you with more words as anything but an attempt to correct a terrible wrong".
Modified by Lp at Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 07:28:09
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That's pathetic indeed.
And I really feel sad for my ex friends who're still involved.
I just hope some of them will still be able to make it out before it's too late ........... So sad !!!!!
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Why does cult speak always involve splitting infinitives: "to be more heartfelt" something either is - or more likely the source of anxiety in this case - or is not, heartfelt. Anyway what a truly nasty guilt tripping pyschologically abusive 'motivational' talk those poor premies have to endure. No wonder they are questioning why they aren't heartfelt enough. Nik
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and it was hinting towards prop0gation, (as in prop(zero)gation)
Modified by Lp at Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 06:00:46
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It is like watching a group of aging hippies stuck in the past! I know so many of those people whose names were on the specific tasks list, and it reminds me of the weeks, months and years I wasted doing exactly the same thing! And poor old Kay F, still trying to manage all the premies in Australia after all these years- time warp..... sad, sad, sad.
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Hi Annie,
Do I know you? I can think of three Annie's though only the surname of one. Are you the horse loving Annie? Were you a Queenslander?
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It's hard to know if we know each other since "ocker" is pretty generic! lol I lived all over Australia but have lived back in the US since 2000.
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Hi,
I didn't know an Annie from the US but I look forward to your updated Journey.
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I don't think we know each other personally, but ask John for my email address and I will give you more details.
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It is indeed sad. And I really recognize this having been involved in meetings like this only last year.. and look how revealing the 'dream' is 'to be more heartfelt', 'to have fun and be part of it all', 'more confidence' 'enthusiasm to take off' It is exactly the same in the UK. Transparently joyless...Lots of memos inviting people to propagation meetings..which are always described as 'fun'...always sent with 'warm regards' (god I hate that phrase!). In place of spontaneity ..propagation training ...and absolutely no ideas whatsoever other than to hand out more of those god-awful DVDs. Trying to do this was the last drip that finally spun me out and back to sanity again. It is so truly awful that maybe ..just maybe it will do the same favour for some others best Tim
Modified by tommo at Thu, Feb 08, 2007, 18:47:38
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that sounds like it's got even worse than when I left in 2000.
There was this guy here trying to train us like a football team
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used to call yourself Lisa, or are you a different Lesley?
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I don't recall meeting a lisa/lesley. Somewhere in the dim recesses I think I remember meeting another Lesley in one of those dim dungeons or sunlit ranges at amaroo.
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>just maybe it will do the same favour for some others< Oh I don't think so - they'll all be reading that TPRF is using its charitable funds to buy Rawat a place at the Grammy Awards swill trough - and think "hey this is fantastic, this is the year when it all takes off !" If all those decent premies can't get their heads around the fact that Rawat is not what they believe (experience, enjoy, know) him to be, will they ever grasp that there's a bunch of slick preppy business types taking the micky with all that motivational crap and spending oodles of premie donations on corporate living ? Even I'm begining to feel sad for them. Nik
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The astonishing thing is that the Brisbane-Ipswich community is the largest and most committed in Australia as it is the closest to Amaroo and many premies moved there in the early 90's. There may be more premies in Melbourne - it's not important enough to try to search old records to check - but Briswich is definitely the central one.
While I don't pretend to understand Rawat's thinking, it is nearly inconceivable to think that the effort put into prop0gation is worth the result except that it is required to provide the underlying rationale for "Knowledge". It keeps those premies who believe in service something to do. However apart from the Indian premies - there is a significant Indian community in Australia that came from Fiji due to the racial troubles there - whom I do not know I recognise most of the people involved.
Ben S. is actually a second generation premie and I've said it many times before but with his parents how he ended up a premie is something I cannot understand. But talk about desperation: Andrea wants to get together a group to do creative visualisations for successful propagation. How many levels of wacko can a person exist in? Most of the rest of the named people are what you might call the usual suspects - nice, well-meaning - but it certainly doesn't look like the best and the brightest were there at the prop0gation meeting, presumably they're garnering their energies for higher level "service" - read closer to the LOTU.
I think it costs $1500 dollars a month to run the Words of Probably Potential Possible Peace show on the Bris 31 community TV channel. So that alone without any of the other costs involved works out at $18000 / 8 = $2250 per new premie.
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Oh come on premies, get with the program already! How many, many, many phases of prop-O-gation have you gone through in the past 30 or 40 years! Why hasn't it worked yet to bring Knowledge to the world? Premies! It's not YOUR fault!!!! Rawat has a new jet and someone's got to pay for it and it aint' gonna be him. To do that he needs some more rich premies. That's what all this new surge of prop-O-gation is all about. Nothing more. You do the math.
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