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02/06/2007, 03:52:42
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It was, perhaps, my last observation shared with Hilltop, (a geographical feature we call a Tor round here) and a friend you all knew before me, (as Hilltop) before I warmed to this clear sighted prankster.

It is funny to me, though I realize over stated, to notice how easy it is to find the flaws in the things Maharaji says.

Though I've ony attempted it a few times, and then more as, for me, an early morning exercise, a communication between two slightly impish minds.

I confess I was often a bit of a back row giggler, in church; in school, the extra seriousness and awe of over inflated self importance, caused almost everything that happened to have a ring of humour about it.

Little things: nothing so great guffaw inducing as the day when a perfectly good vicar forgot when to hold and when to let slide the bellrope and shot upwards, till only his boots were visible, and everyone screamed "don't leg go" at once, then he was lowered by a just toppling bell into an undignified heap beneath the fluffy bit
of the rope

My friend and I, barely clinging, collapsed and rose and descended in stitches of laughter, while all through the villages and neighbouring tors, the peal went into cacophonic chaos.

I confess I was often the one made to stand outside in the hall, at school, yet still managed to make the class laugh through the window in the door.

Holding the nose and slowly sinking was a good starter.

Peering from the corner while faking a third arm to come and grab your head and pulling it slowly back out of sight was another -- grabbing the ear works too ...

(Of course checking back to count the score of who saw it, and who's still laughing, was usually when you got caught)

And if serious mirth outbreaks occur, running off doesn't hide you for ever.  Then it's detention, headmaster's office, etc....

But I digress...

I am almost, but not, pleased: but definitely, seriously amused to observe, as so many observe, his growing ability and at times, quite extensive skills at shooting himself in the foot.

Oh I know, it's cruel to add vinegar to lemon juice, but I have to go and (talking with Hilltop), mention shooting fish in a barrel.  Now I know that's just plain not nice!

I mentioned too that I hold an R.A.F. marksman's badge, which makes it even more child's play.

It's too tempting though, sometimes, it gets quiet in the early hours, (my time) and suddenly an influx of aptly chosen Hilltop links would appear. I miss him. These would kick start the day for me.

My point is that it's too tempting.
I don't know what the solution is.
It could be that the barrel or the well is shrinking and getting too small.
It could be that, like Side Show Bob, "He has some mighty big shoes to fill",
Or it could be that if we have learnt nothing over these wasted years we have somehow learned to aim straight.

(I won't mention our headmaster's exortations re: the school bogs.)

I reckon that in examining any average paragraph from the cult or it's leader, we would find that, subliminally or not, it will contain evidence or at least clues to the cover ups, false images, unfounded promises and confidence tricks.

But more, even veiled threats to enforce dosh extraction. Threats like wasting your life, or turning into rotting vegetables, or worse, munmuts, (a rare vegetable found in India).

Now, what was I saying? Oh yes, I guess it's a bit catching though, as we appear to have inherited the art.

Even though small feet run in our family.






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02/06/2007, 04:00:34
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Good point -Maharaji comes out with as many gaffes as George W Bush - maybe a collection of them is well overdue.



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Brilliant idea but
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02/06/2007, 04:02:43
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we have to consider the collosal storage space that would be required, still hard drives are getting bigger.






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02/06/2007, 11:20:24
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Prem Rawat and George W. Bush have some things in common including:

1.  Both are in positions once held by their fathers.

2.  Both have experience flying airplanes.

3.  Both have (had) problems with alcohol.

4.  Both are poor public speakers.

5.  Both are multimillionaires who made their money with little or no effort on their part.

6.  Both have a small and diminishing core of loyal followers.

Kabir 







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Hey! well observed Kabir
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02/06/2007, 11:24:22
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02/06/2007, 11:30:23
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spot on comparisons there Kabir - couldn't agree more



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02/06/2007, 11:32:13
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spot on comparisons there Kabir - couldn't agree more



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02/07/2007, 02:38:02
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I will confess I look for a Hilltop post that doesn't have a file attached - most of them have and I don't want to be assaulted by the sight of that great big bloated face, you know the one I'm referring to, plus I decided that since I had listened so well to his drivel as a premie I could have time off for good behavior and not read it now.

So there I go looking for a Hilltop post that's just Hilltop, why not I think, and there the odd one is, I too hope he comes back soon.






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Yes and I always found
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02/07/2007, 03:42:51
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when Hilltop does post that with few words he says a great deal.

"I too hope he comes back soon."

Me too.

I agree about that face though. It's not just his appearance. It's because I can still see in his expression that he is still just sitting there, content, grinning, smug in the thought that he is some ultra-important god/altruistic world leader, just like he did when I was just another of his worthless servants who had helped put him there.

Somewhere out there, there must be thousands who neither post nor go to programs anymore, yet still, consciously or subliminally, carry a lot of the garbage he gave them around.

Unable to nay say him, they, by default, help him stay where he is.

Saph. (ex-premies of the world, unite!)





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02/07/2007, 15:27:38
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"It's because I can still see in his expression that he is still just sitting there"

yes, well exactly, yuk, I just don't want to look at it.  My theory is the bloated look comes from that smug thinking of his that he's so important a person.  I don't think he even questions it.  Wouldn't dare.

One of the things I love about my life now is I get to determine who is important to me all by myself without assuming
that Mr Rawat is.

Indeed I consider it one of his foullest sins to have plastered his face all over the place.








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Right, it didn't seem so bad, when he was a cute kid
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02/07/2007, 15:49:00
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if you could ever say that. But now it seems more and more preposterous as time passes.

"that smug thinking of his that he's so important a person. I don't think he even questions it. Wouldn't dare."

It's this isn't it, that is ugliest of all in him. His unquestionable conviction in his own entitlement. But his smug, self satisfaction, which he doesn't see and premies musn't see, hopefully gives him away to anyone with normal vision.





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yes there were some nice pics of 'the golden child'
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02/07/2007, 19:01:09
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and they were a lot easier on the eye than the teenage ones.  And it's just got worse since then.  The wardrobe that appeared in the pics of his young adulthood as he got extremely rich hit a new low.  The suits might have done something to improve his appearance but the face started straining at the seams.

Ugliest? I'm not so sure.  I think I see that in his indifference to the impact his treatment of them has on the premies.






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there's probably even uglier things about him than that
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02/07/2007, 19:30:07
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No, it's nice to live in a Rawatfree zone.






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02/08/2007, 01:21:36
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Who'd be a P.A.M., It must be hell to be in those shoes, these days.





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True Lesley
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02/08/2007, 01:07:32
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"I think I see that in his indifference to the impact his treatment of them has on the premies."

That's so hard to take, especially the first time an innocent believer who thought he was "all love", realizes that he just doesn't care one jot.






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02/07/2007, 19:04:41
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True LP,   I think it partly that we..the ever uncertain and unsure admired and took comfort in his apparent utter conviction.  ..and equated it with him really knowing something.  And he always tried to made sure that the relationship was 'changeless'.  Transparently just a smug and pompous ass now

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02/08/2007, 08:03:48
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I remember Hilltop mentioning once or twice that writing wasn't his strongest talent and that  he appreciates the visual form rather than the written word.

Having said that ,when Hilltop did occasionally write at any length he expressed himself very clearly and well.

I admit that I too rarely read Rawats ramblings as posted by Hilltop after my first few months on this forum, as I too overdosed horribly when I was a premie.It's good that many of them are preserved in " The Gallery" which is accessible at the top of the forum page.

Love and a banjo lick to you,Hilltop.







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There's a good view from a hilltop
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02/09/2007, 01:48:51
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I read a number of old things in those first few weeks.  I read heaps of epo, it helped so much, as did Jim's fierce defence of reasoning as a reasonable thing to do and the welcome I got. ..scary as it all was it was such fun and such a relief to be using my brain again.








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Correction: exortations: should read exhortations.
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02/07/2007, 07:48:46
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I hate to remind anyone of this
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02/08/2007, 02:00:08
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 But Krishna died from a rabbit hunter's arrow in the foot.






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Same as Achiles'e heel
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