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The Falcon ®

11/19/2006, 06:52:36
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Re: indeed
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snow-white ®

11/19/2006, 09:11:37
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thanks, it is really worth reading, excellent analysis, even fascinating and quiet familiar, I wonder why.






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I think we can all relate to that,Falcon
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lexy ®

11/19/2006, 13:27:47
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This quote could be a thread header:

"If one believes that the guru's power has healed one's pain and satisfied one’s hunger, then for some, keeping the pain from returning means preserving the guru, at any cost. The pain of life that has been magically erased by the guru may indeed return if one rejects the guru. It may, and often does, return, along with many other warded off emotions, and these will need to be experienced, felt, understood, worked through, and made meaningful, if real transformation, not magic, is to occur. This is part of the complex process of human self-development that the cult solution can only pretend to address. For many who successfully exit cults, the process of transformation and expanded self-awareness they sought when they joined the cult only really begins once they have left the cult."

and so could this:

....oh, I can't find it now....perhaps someone else can help.






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Yes excellent in its way.
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Bryn ®

11/20/2006, 08:11:00
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I do like the analysis part of the psychoanalytic perspective. It helps me be active in my self reflection.

There is some really good stuff said here in this article.Ta for the tipoff. 

It is horrible to see so much of myself in the psycho-dynamics of the guru as much as in the pathology of the devotee. Ooer, what have I become!

Glory to all.

Bryn







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"Don`t ever tell".... the nexus of unfreedom
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Milarepa ®

11/23/2006, 04:42:59
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I picked up on this extract immediately... 

"secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense" (p. 8). It was hearing these words, "Don't ever tell," that broke for me what Ernst Becker (1973) has called "the spell cast by persons -- the nexus of unfreedom." I recognized that, like many of my social work clients who were abused as children by their parents, I too had been subjected to abuse—by the person I called my guru.

Excellent essay... thanks for the link Falcon.






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