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hi dan, you see, it is completely pointless to argue with a trapped cultist. whatever is undeniable but opposite to his view, he ignores it. then he takes your words out of context and twists them. this is going on over and over. he was proven wrong here again and again, and even dismantled as a liar.
he definitely hasn't surrendered his urge to come here and play the cult apologizer. So if he has never accomplished the "subtile"teaching of surrender how can he say anything worthy about that matter, be it from rawat or anybody else?toby
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