My perspective is quite different
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07/28/2005, 09:08:56
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From my little perspective, the words of this writer reveal not an enlightened mind, but a deluded one.  It makes me wonder what "experience" this guy is having?  I can only suggest that he is the victim of his own spiritual masturbation in which the only objection is to "get high."  At least that's what he seems to be saying.

I am not enlightened, but I think I know enough about life to realize a few obvious things.  Shall I name a few?

(1) Self-fulfillment, or even self-respect, cannot arise from being a follower of a guru.  This is an instinctive understanding that most people have just from learning the dynamics of interpersonal relationships.  Once you give some of your marbles to the other person you are at a distinct disadvantage.  In the case of this anonymous yet self-proclaimed joyously superior person, his disadvantage is that he is forced to adjust his own moral judgements to accomodate Rawat's actions and life-style.  I pity anybody who is in such a postition, and all guru-followers are deep into that position.  His obvious problem is that he is not privy to Prem Rawat's private activities and is therefore forced into a position of accepting his own ignorance while blindly "trusting" Rawat.  How pathetic.  What would this person say if he found out, for example, that the worse scenario for the Jagdeo issue was indeed the truth?  He would have to eat his words and reject Mr. Rawat.  Or go ever deeper into his deluded mindset.  I am trying to describe the inherent problem of guruism.  The guru will tell you that you have to surrender a part of yourself and honor the guru; in Rawat's case he now politely asks that you keep in touch and listen to him and allow him to inspire you and help you grow for the rest of your lifetime.  Even though these words are expressed in the most politically correct way possible, they still reveal the awful sickness of guruism.  Most people would puke right away.  The susceptible ones are those like our anonymous friend who apparently cannot trust their own inner self enough.  What a person gives up of his own identity to a guru is not something that he should be giving up, and that is his or her own individual reliance on themselves.

(2) Getting high, and mighty, and confident.  A person can get really high though guru-devotion,  and through meditation, (our writer's preference).   Religious indoctrination can produce certitude and euphoria.  Talk to any suicide bomber and you will be talking to a very high and confident person.  Unfortunately, that person is entirely deluded and will soon be dead,  having committed one of the worst possible crimes against humanity.  We find truth, not when we are high, but when we are ourselves just as we are.  The temporary revelations of drug-induced or religion-induced states only further reveal the mystery of life, which is already apparent.  Our understanding of life and the universe will always remain incomplete and acceptance of our incompleteness is one of the things we must learn in life.  As long as we struggle to "improve" ourselves or gain higher states, we will be in a state of stuggle, not peace.  Those who proclaim their own higher status reveal their own lacking in understanding!  They are comical, and they are sad.

(3) Love, harmony, inclusion, compassion are all hallmarks of a worthy experience and are all lacking in the writer's letter.  His sarcasm and veiled animosity belong in the realm of cultism.  Surely the truth is all-inclusive and those who are getting closer and closer to it become more and more humane and respectful in their expressions to other people.  Acceptance grows of onseself and of other people, even to the point where one is not afraid to use one's own name!

These are some of the things I have learned simply by living and observing.  If this "premie" writer can instruct me differently, then I am willing to read his words and to consider them. 

p.s. I put "premie" in parentheses in this person's case, because his comments about Maharaji are less than what I would expect from a real premie, (and that is to his credit, of course).






Modified by Will at Thu, Jul 28, 2005, 10:24:42

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