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Hi Everyone- Before I get into film documentary subject, I'd like to acknowledge the posts by Anth and Lakeshore. They were very powerful and thanks to you both for posting them.
Regarding film documentary interest:
I was contacted by a French ex premie a few months ago. His good friend is a well known French film director, who has a producer willing to produce a full expose on PR and the cult for French TV. The film director has an impressive resume of successful French films.
I spoke with ex p. and the director just before Xmas. They want to tell the whole story from the early days right up until now. They asked if I would be part of the project. For sure was the answer.
These things take time, but I'm confident the project will move forward in due time. I'll keep you updated.
The next one: A Texas based film company producing films for Hulu. I spoke to the researcher and as she described what they want it was clear that want they want is not a fit. A good contact to have for the future was made though.
I believe there is renewed interest in cults these days and it's only a matter of time, a short time hopefully, when the truth about Prem Rawat comes to the public eye.
The more people speak out, the better. I've had many people contact me as a result of my articles posted on Medium, here and the new website. I've made a lot new friends and rekindled relationships with old ones. Of course, many old friends, the loyalists, have dropped me like a hot potato. I really could care less. What's more important is the push for justice and truth.
I see Hans has weighed in on some FB posts, something I've not seen him do before. I'm very happy to see that. Shana, of course, continues to be very vocal.
He and Shana need all the support we can provide to them. They're doing something very courageous.
There are some other things cooking behind the scenes too that I hope come to fruition. When the time is right, we'll know more.
Here's to keeping the fight for truth alive and not going quietly into the night.
Don
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I haven't been able to find where Hans has spoken out about the cult and his family. I am FB friends with him. Did he post a reply to one of your posts? I looked .
Thanks, Karen
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K- it was on a Susie Wasapremie quote post. Link to it here--https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=343033685320385&set=a.122382484052174&comment_id=595936546049583¬if_id=1706107222397896¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
Modified by Admin at Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 18:44:43
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K- it was on a Susie Wasapremie quote post. Link to it here--https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=343033685320385&set=a.122382484052174&comment_id=595936546049583¬if_id=1706107222397896¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
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Here are a few pictures from the past, the picture of Rawat walking was taken at Prem Nagar ashram in 1972, the one with me charming the snake was taken in Delhi in 72 as well In spite of Rawat's claim that he never said he was the Lord incarnate, Deity etc. the gaudy image of Rawat in full dress perfect master regalia complete with crown depicts the opposite position
The flamboyant implication of spiritual royalty is blatantly promoted, nothing subtle about it
One picture is worth a thousand words, a few years later, it was realized that these grandiose images were contradicting Rawat's description of his role as a humble servant
All images and publications indicating otherwise were to be destroyed and discarded. I still have a few old "And it is Divine Magazines" photos and tapes stashed away in storage.
You can find a lot of this on eBay and places like it online.
In this age of technology you cannot bury your past and hide your secrets, the chickens will always come home to roost.
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I am willing to be interviewed about my experiences interacting with the Prem Rawat cult.
I agree that they are courageous. I care very much and will do what I can to help them.
I want to once again say, the voices here meant a lot. Recall, when I first posted about Jagdeo here, Katie got me in touch with someone else who had been attacked by him on another continent.
Our voices matter-- and you never really know who they will end up mattering to.
Modified by Susan at Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 18:36:04
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I don't have much to offer in terms of "bad experiences" at least not of the calibre that Susan and A. might tell. So all I can do is to give "mental" support. And this I will do.
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
Albert Einstein
Avoiding a problem does not make it go away, avoiding feeling does not make it go away either. (me)
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If there ever is a documentary, while we former premies would find the stories of the notable premies and family very interesting, and probably the public would to, it would not mean much without the context of what the cult was in the 1970s for ordinary premies and the cult and Prem Rawat, as Gail said in the Greedy Guru, "having more makeovers than the Kardashians"
I think the stories of community premies and ashram premies would be very important. Even parents, spouses, and especially, those children dragged to darshan lines and raised to worship him.
I also think all his current success, everything the cult brags about online, getting in public schools, getting in prisons, the Sara Sidner interview and not disclosing she is long time cult member's daughter ( and that recording..did she get Knowledge as a child? I am not sure but I sure would like someone to ask her. Would they get a no comment on such a benign question?), his Guiness records in India, the reality or illusion of him rebranding into a Peace Ambassador. You look at his own sites and his own PR. The more he succeeds the more newsworthy he becomes.
And someone would have to describe the great bookburning of 1983.
Also, have another look at Lord of the Universe TVTV documentary. When you aren't a devotee or a former premie, the followers and ex followers are as much a part of the story as the cult leader himself.
https://mediaburn.org/video/lord-of-the-universe-2/
Modified by Susan at Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 20:34:15
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Thanks, maybe this is why 'life' lead me to find Shana Rawat on FB just these few weeks ago - as if now it's time for me to go back deep inside myself and find more rubbish to release and let go of.
The other day, I watched this doc "the lord of the universe" ... and within me, I had a lot of mixed emotions going on:
1) my old self of 1973 - I had received K roughly 6 months before this festival, and it was the 2nd time for me to be at a "festival", the first one was Guru Puja in London - the one where my first darshan line turned out to be a huge disappointment with GMJ ... so this old self of mine reacted with some kind of nostalgia, less because of "the lord" ... much more because of this hype going on in our generation ... not-so-old hippies finally found something to go for. And to me it felt (back then), that this whole generation had come together "as one" and NOW would be the beginning of "OUR time" ....
2) my present self sitting there, shaking my head, feeling extremely embarrassed about how could I have been THIS STUPID??? But then, my present self knows exactly that my former hippie self was so much hoping for a "saviour", for as a hippie I had read Yogananda's "autobiography of a yogi" ... so my romantic and idealistic traits had put all hopes and wishes on THIS figure! So, I don't blame myself, but rather, in my fantasy, take my younger self into my arms, comfort it (her), and try to integrate this whole episode into my wealth of life experience(s).
Let me know if or when there's something I can contribute. 
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
Albert Einstein
Avoiding a problem does not make it go away, avoiding feeling does not make it go away either. (me)
Modified by Ash at Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 20:55:16
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"So, I don't blame myself, but rather, in my fantasy, take my younger self into my arms, comfort it (her), and try to integrate this whole episode into my wealth of life experience(s)."
And while you'e busy comforting your younger self, please share that gem with everyone.
I'll never forget the words of Nik who said the same thing. When I was strugglng the most right after I left the cult, Nik said that you shouldn't try to just cut that part of your life out of yourself, but rather try to integrate it into your life as part of what makes you who you are... a stronger, better, wiser whole person who learned an invaluable lesson.
Okay... it was so long ago that I forgot his exact words and maybe I embellished a little. But still...
Happy to see you posting again!
Modified by lakeshore at Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 13:15:18
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I was trying to think of something to say besides expressing my appreciation for everything you're doing.
Then it hit me! Documentary versus Expose! I was going to say I hope it leans heavily on the expose side, but then I read your post again and saw that you even had that one covered.
Your good news is such a relief it feels like a breath of fresh air.
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Yes, Expose! I should have made that more clear. I have no interest in being part of any project unless it is full expose. -
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Don, I'd be happy to be interviewed about the cult, especially my experiences in protecting the websites from their attacks. John.
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Thank you John for keeping this site going!
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John, You got it. I'll keep you updated.
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Just when you think you read every page on prem rawat bio you find a new one. It's like never ending dips into history....
On the left is the producer trying to plan how to capture Millenium. His comments on premies and Prem Rawat are so interesting. You can only imagine how they would plan this 50 years later....
https://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/videos/tvtv/hilites.html
"When we first began planning the film, we thought the guru was humorous,” Marquez told me. "Here was this outrageous fat kid, sitting on thrones, riding around in Rolls Royces, saying all these indecipherable things. It seemed funny. But the closer we got to it, the more we got the feeling that it was very evil."
https://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/newspapers/1974/31307216.html
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