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01/26/2024, 00:37:17
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Remember what it was like the first time you posted here?

You were maybe angry, sad, disappointed, shaken, uncertain - having to re-evaluate everything, and then you take a stand here. Say your piece. It took me a while. It's quite something to recognise it was a cult, that you were duped and then say it in public. We still had friends in the cult, who still believed, and we were saying what they believed was rubbish after all. We were taking a step from live and let live to being judgmental, pointing out errors in thinking, painting someone deemed holy as unholy.

It was a big step.

For Susan and others abused, it was a step even further. It was more personal. The accusations made are enormous and serious and personal, and as so often, it's one word against another. Speaking out is risking being up against flat out denial. Being portrayed as deluded, a trouble-maker, an attention-seeker. 

And yet she and others have spoken out.

And then there's Shana. With all of that and even more. It's her family she's speaking out against, with huge accusations, against someone held by many in the highest esteem. Imagine if Rawat is properly exposed and many of his followers turn away. The adoration is limited to a few crazies who just can't stop. The money stops. The huge estates have to be sold. The jet has to go. The lifestyle of Rawat and his team is just kicked away. The repercussions, the anger...

I'm just saying, really, I want to express huge respect for Shana and Susan and others. 

It's real courage. Something to emulate. 






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01/26/2024, 02:51:58
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01/26/2024, 06:28:04
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Thanks 13

I have just posted in the thread below but could just as well have posted it here.

Yes it took courage to post here for the first time, I remember it well " Lord or Fraud ?" I asked, and it was a huge step.  I lost all my premie friends though fortunately several of them also woke up and left..eventually.

But yes, you're right, it takes a quantum leap in courage to speak out about sexual abuse and especially in this particularly dangerous family and especially about the Lord of the Uniperverse.






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01/26/2024, 06:39:12
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Yeah, sorry I kind of skipped over those messages below already expressing solidarity and support. I'd clocked them myself, only I just woke up this morning, and realised what courage it took for Shana and Susan to stand up and say what they've said and I wanted to say how much I appreciated and admired that. So I didn't pay much attention to what had gone before...

Obviously, I'm not alone with this feeling! And I'm glad about that.






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01/27/2024, 16:57:10
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I do remember fear when I first posted here and I had not been a premie for over a decade. I had left. Thought I was in a cult. But never had a chance to talk about it with anyone who really understood it.

And posting about Jagdeo was very scary. And every word of support here meant a lot. As I was very scared some Fakiranand type might want to exact revenge. And with Dettmers story about the houseboy ready to take the fall, that got scary too.

The cult members used to post here and were sometimes appalling in the things they would say. And I never got the worst of it compared. I wasn’t the worst assaulted almost to the point I felt compared to others I basically escaped. 

So, naturally, I care a lot about this issue. About the physical and emotional safety of those involved.

It is all way too serious and I think unfair to hint at things I might be aware of that I can’t share,  both to readers and to those whose lives are most affected.  

But I do share your concerns.  

Whatever bravery I mustered has never seemed like that much to be compared to others. 

Thank you for your supportive words. They mean a lot not just to me.  I know the support means a lot.






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01/30/2024, 16:32:44
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01/30/2024, 16:33:28
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My total respect and support for all of you who are speaking out right now.






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