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12/14/2020, 16:08:39
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Back in the early 1990s I had a pretty good job as a contractor at a software house. I was trying to get an increase in my hourly rate and was on track to get it.

However, still being a premie, I had mentioned that I followed Guru Maharaji to my onsite manager.

Anyway, I never did get the rate increase and was told by my manager that he didn't authorize it because he figured that I'd just give the money to the Guru.








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12/14/2020, 16:22:58
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Cor, the bible is full of shit. The meek will never inherit the earth. Why would they? And then there's 'judge not lest thou be judged'. Some bad translation here maybe? I've made serious mistakes trying not to be judgemental!






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12/14/2020, 16:41:39
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13,

As clueless as I am, can I ask if you're judging me in your post?

Also, I've changed a lot since the 90's. I'm more handsome than ever!






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12/14/2020, 23:49:58
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No, I'm too meek to judge you.


Funny, I am also becoming more and more handsome, but another change, my eyesight isn't what it used to be.






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12/19/2020, 12:46:04
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I think "meek" is a bad translation too. The words were often translated politically ( meek being a way to manipulate people...a meek person possibly more easily manipulated is what I am trying to say ) Biblical translations can be the subject of much discussion.






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12/20/2020, 02:38:42
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In a perfect world, there'd be a translation that was just right, beyond misinterpretation and irrefutable, and we'd all know just what we ought to do all the time.






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12/22/2020, 09:51:40
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In a perfect world....Dissatisfaction comes from seeking perfection...nothing is ever perfect so suck it up  






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12/22/2020, 10:26:20
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I'm sucking, I'm sucking!






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12/29/2020, 11:47:10
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12/15/2020, 03:16:48
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Hi Roger and John, Compliments of the season to you both.

Speaking of the meek, Nixon gave an interesting quote about them to Hunter Thompson who met him in a public toilet, I think at an airport. They had a brief conversation.
Thompson asked Nixon,
"But what about the meek?"
Nixon replied,
"Fuck the meek."

Anth, fuck the handsome too.






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12/15/2020, 03:47:14
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'Meek' is apparently a bad translation. It should be something like 'those who know how to use a sword but choose to keep it sheathed' which makes a lot more sense.






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12/15/2020, 14:32:55
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That is more sensible. And more fun. Like David Carradine in Kung Fu - he got wupped nearly all the way through every episode, but you knew in the end...

Blessed are the heavily armed who show restraint. Doesn't have the ring to it though.






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12/17/2020, 13:49:41
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I guess it does make sense though. Because after everyone else has hacked each other up, they are the only ones left standing.

But somehow it is quaint to imagine a bunch of quiet shy librarians, gardeners and elevator operators inheriting the Earth.






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12/17/2020, 16:07:21
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I heard it first from Jordan Peterson, but this Quora answer goes into more detail, including contemporary uses of the Greek word 'praus'. I like how it's use to describe a war horse.:-

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"Are only weak pacifists going to inherit the Earth? Does this mean that all pacifists, regardless of their faith, religious beliefs, or other actions going to get to heaven?

This quote comes from Jesus’s ‘Sermon on the Mount’ found in Matthew 5:5.

Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

Interlinear. Chapter 5, verse 5 reads: “Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.”

Definition of the word meek:
The Greek word praus, translated here as meek, can also be translated as gentle, humble, or mild. As indicated by HELPS Word Studies, “This difficult-to-translate root (pra-) means more than "meek." Biblical meekness is not weakness but rather refers to exercising God's strength under His control – i.e. demonstrating power without undue harshness. [The English term "meek" often lacks this blend – i.e. of gentleness (reserve) and strength.]” — As we can see, meekness doesn’t mean weakness, but rather a different characteristic altogether. Let’s explore a little more to fully understand this word further.

Other uses of the word meek in the Bible:
It is helpful to view this use of “meek” by comparing it with the other places it is used in the Bible. It is only used 4 times, 3 of those are in the Book of Matthew.

In Matthew 11:29, Jesus calls Himself meek. He says: “Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.” By taking Jesus’s yoke (a harness used to attach one younger animal to another more experienced animal) we are borrowing from Jesus’s strength. He is, in effect, offering to help carry our burdens. Certainly this cannot mean He is weak, as He is strong enough to help us to the point that we can rest now, and his meekness is the very reason He is helping us carry our burden.

In Matthew 21:5, Jesus says He will present Himself as the Messiah by being meek. He accomplishes this by riding into down on a donkey, which is a uncomfortable, lowly act that only a feeble person unable to walk would need to do, while also fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah 62 that the Messiah would do this. Contrast this with Matthew 7:21 where Jesus says: “Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.” — So here we see that Jesus’s meekness mustn’t be about weakness, but rather a balance of both his gentleness and his strength.

In 1 Peter 3:4, Christian wives are told not to focus on their external beauty as much as on their inner hearts, to have a meek and quiet spirit, which is very precious in God’s sight. One of the ways wives are told to accomplish this is through their submission to their husbands (v5–6). Likewise, (v7) husbands are commanded to live with their wives in a similar way showing understanding and honor to them. The remainder of chapter 3 and all of 4 describe how every Christian is to submit to Jesus.

We can see this common trend throughout scripture: Jesus submitting to the Father in the same meek way, that the wive is to submit to her husband, and every Christian submitting to God in meekness. It is not the lack of strength but rather the surrender of the strength that one does possess to another for the right reasons.

The Greek War Horse - Understanding How We, Too, Can Be Meek

The New Testament was written in Greek so it is helpful to understand how other Greek writings, written at this time, used these same words. The word praus, "meekness," means "power under control." Praus was used often by the Greeks to describe a war horse that was trained to obey instantly and absolutely, no matter how great the confusion during battle.

When the Greeks could take a horse, with incredible power and strength that can propel a thousand-pound animal at speeds over 35 miles an hour, and bring that magnificent animal under the total control of just a touch—maybe just leg pressure or knee pressure—and have that horse do exactly what the rider wanted, then they called that horse praus.

The horse is certainly not weak. It has incredible strength! But in order for both the horse and the rider to survive during war the horse must not hinder or even second-guess the rider’s directions. It must trust completely in the rider and surrender fully and obey it at all times. This is what God wants from us. The meek shall inherit the Earth because they will be the people who have died to self and surrendered their lives over to Jesus. They will be those who didn’t live in their own strength, and go their own direction, but rather trusted completely in the Lord Jesus and in the direction that He wants them to go in."






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12/19/2020, 12:41:42
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Hi Drek

That's what my mother said.

He got quite a lot off me considering I wasn't very rich
Still suffer financially from all the mistakes I made then...to this very day.







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12/19/2020, 12:52:17
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Lexy,

I thoroughly concur. We wasted a lot of precious time hearing stuff like 'don't bother saving money for the future' crap.






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