| Fundraising for Prem Rawat's monthly $850,000 per month personal expenses |
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It seems that the premies are still being squeezed hard for money. Prem Rawat requires $850,000 per month for his personal expenses. They are being pressured to shell it out. Only someone who still believes that Rawat is indeed the Lord of the Universe, as he once posed himself to be, would be so blind as to give that kind of money to someone who runs a $2 million per year charitable foundation. The premies are gut hooked by the old bait and have not been able to spit it out or free themselves. Rawat uses this to squeeze money out of them in private. So hard to admit that you been had after a lifetime of being a sucker.
Modified by swimming free at Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 14:12:27
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Just trying to imagine my lifestyle if I spent $850,000 a YEAR let alone a freaking MONTH, because 850,000 divided by 30 that's $28,333 per DAY. Maybe time to start economising a bit mr guru...
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Can you mention your source for the expense figure, Roger? Are aircraft and averaged fuel use costs included in it?
Modified by tarvuist at Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 19:35:41
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sorry, no source naming. I don't have details on the break down of what the money is used for. Apparantly he is not flying much these days, but is taking delivery at some point of yet another new Gulfstream model. I doubt that it includes his flying costs, or it would probably be a bigger number. I expect there is a separate source of revenue for that.
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Thanks Roger...fascinating figure of course anyway.
Modified by tarvuist at Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 23:44:29
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Thanks Roger. Also, lets not forget all of the "slave labor" Rawat orchestrates for his own personal benefit. He has premies staged all over the world looking after him and his assets for free. If he actually paid these people what they were worth it seems like it could double that $850K/month!
Modified by jasper at Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 07:43:26
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god you're right Jasper. Enormous as the figure is, it doesn't include all the slave labour.
or his plane. so what's that leave - house and car expenses, food and cognac. Holidays? well I guess they come under propagation. What's he spend it on?
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I remember when I'd go to the Malibu residence to do "free work", it would usually be twice a year for about a week at a time. Sometimes I'd take 2 or 3 other people who I paid for out of my own pocket. Including air fare, hotels, rental car, meals, and if I was to charge for my time, each trip would have easily been worth $15K to 20K.
Then there were always other teams of premies working on some other projects, probably at least at the same cost/value. Plus, the cook, the maid, a guy to work on all those cars, the landscapers, security guards, the resident House Managers, irrigation and electrical experts, the Office Staff; all would have cost a fortune, if in fact they were paid a fair wage. But they either worked for free or were paid next to nothing.
And with all these people milling around with their tongues jammed into their sinus cavities trying to not miss a single breath, there wasn't a lot of friendly interaction going on. Many of us were secretly terrified of making a mistake and getting the family upset, but of course no-one would admit that or even talk about it. All of it for the sake of helping satisfy Rawat's insatiable greed. The exact opposite of peace and bliss.
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What a monumental waster Mr Rawat is.
Premies were a much happier group in the early days and increasingly became less supportive of each other - why? because that is what Mr Rawat asked of them.
and then when you start to see what it is like for the premies up close and personal with him, how stressed and isolated they become, the picture of his personality is dark indeed.
Ugh. Come on premies, spit out the dummy - you are worth much more than he is.
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Well Jasper this might kinda go against the grain of the site here, but...
"...there were always other teams of premies working on some other projects, probably at least at the same cost/value. Plus, the cook, the maid, a guy to work on all those cars, the landscapers, security guards, the resident House Managers, irrigation and electrical experts, the Office Staff; all would have cost a fortune, if in fact they were paid a fair wage. But they either worked for free or were paid next to nothing."
In the several years I was around their Malibu residence I know that the people hired onto household and personal Staff or whatever were paid well and got health insurance and retirement contribution, but worked very hard, often overworked, but pretty much willingly until they might find themselves burned out and took their leave, and they basically had no other life during their working years for the most part, and for sure nothing like overtime pay. That's regarding the full time employed staff at least and maybe others like long term temporary skilled people come there during the years of the new residence construction, some who I know got salaries though likely were willing to accept less than they might have gotten paid elsewhere. Probably very many or most of the specifically skilled who came from around the world during the construction of the residence worked without pay, other than those who's skills were rare enough and critical enough to be offered salary. Volunteers of course were volunteers. That was years ago now, although maybe things are still run similarly.
"...there wasn't a lot of friendly interaction going on. Many of us were secretly terrified of making a mistake and getting the family upset, but of course no-one would admit that or even talk about it."
Among the people regularly around the residence in Malibu, the locals like me, I had lots of good friendships develop through those years in times of shared experience, trials and tribulations, likemindedness, and interaction in all the hours and hours and long days together, maybe more like workplace relationships than deep personal ones for myself...and especially the staff were of a different social class one might say in a sort of hierarchy of status ranging somewhere between all the volunteers and the family...but there were lots of romances that sprouted among and across the "classes" and even some marriage (unfortunately not for me, or fortunately). One certainly had to learn to behave well and appropriately in the unique, changing, and often uncertain environment, avoid mistakes and to know very well how to avoid disturbing or annoying the family and how to respond to them well.,.while some kinds of acquaintanceship friendships or familiarity of a sorts grew for some regulars with some of the family over time. While one was always aware one was a servant, subservient, and could be banished or fired for mistakes or inappropriate doings, the family was always gracious with everyone respecting their lives being supported by everyone's generously efforts for them maintaining their household, a unique and even awkward relationship for americans and for children being brought up with intention they be reared and treated "normally". There was no need to talk amongst ourselves about the whole unique and unusual ambiance of it all that one became acclimatized to if one managed to flexible, malleable, and stick around, no need to be secretive about that, just always to be alert to catch the clues and understand the relationships that helped one continue to be asked back or keep whatever regular role one had.
"...The exact opposite of peace and bliss."
Well, actually I'm afraid I have to say I had some wonderful times, sometimes a day with passages of some kind of bliss going on for me, and times personally very peaceful up there in that magnificent view above the Pacific. But I'd gotten pretty well accepted over time despite some awful mistakes and apparently got to fit in pretty comfortably, accepted and making myself useful in all sorts of ways...until...I was... well that's another story.
... but this all is just about one chap's experience there. Left it all behind but for some fond memory...
Modified by tarvuist at Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 04:29:50
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the thing I remember about Amaroo is that when the helicopter landed and Mr Rawat and his entourage had arrived, what had been a relatively sane and friendly working environment became difficult tense and uncomfortable. The difference was very marked.
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Thanks for your post Tarvuist and I appreciate your comments about the positive aspects of service at the residence. In all fairness, as long as I was drinking the Kool-aid in the early years, I felt very humbled and privileged to even be there. It was a very positive "service experience" where I thought I was racking up points towards enlightenment. That was the case for about the first 15 years I was traveling to the Malibu residence, from the late 80's to the early 2000's.
During the 90's while the house construction was happening, there were lots of upbeat premies around, focused on helping with the project. Then sometime around 2002-2003, drips of doubt started creeping in and I began to see things a little differently. But I stayed involved, fighting off my mind and those doubts the best I could for about 5 years.
It was during that 5 year time period when I had witnessed both Rawat and Marilyn totally drunk, and other clues I have written about that maybe this wasn't the Lord of the Universe after all. In 2007, the dam broke pretty suddenly and I couldn't continue to live the lie anymore. That's when I started reading the forum and eventually joined in with regular posts. So my negative comments about Rawat are a reflection of my own ex-ing process and may not at all be relevant to anyone else's experience.
Modified by jasper at Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 08:50:38
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Hi Jasper, I just needed to put some detail to your mention of salary, and went on from there to writing memories, reminiscing and adding my observations. And I already knew much of what you say about yourself from prior postings; I think I said before in a post that we must have crossed paths, might even know each other. I wasn't meaning to counter your direct experience, just wanted to say some things, some facts of what I saw, interesting to write and maybe to others reading along. I bugged out finally sometime closer to 2010. I've appreciated your postings telling as much as you wanted and insight you've given. Glad you got away after being so close in the scene and so deeply and actively dedicated as we were, respecting the kind of status and position you were in (from my own sense of position) back then, and still respecting ... even more for where you and we have gotten to, now much beyond it all.
Modified by tarvuist at Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 14:04:27
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My first reaction was to (think about) contacting premies I haven't seen or spoken to in a decade and scold them for continuing to supporting such a... I said to Flying Solo, "So and so are really smart. I can't imagine that they would continue to support that." To still be that gut hooked... such a tragedy and a stark cold reminder of how thick the steel bars of that purely mental prison are. My heart goes out to them as I remind myself over and over that it's not their fault. Rawat baited a barbed hook of fear with something shiny that looked like love, and now it sits there lodged in their gut(s). Heck, even the trout fishermen around hear squeeze the barbs to make the release easy on the fish.
Modified by lakeshore at Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 19:22:01
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It would be nice for a better breakdown of those expenses, but my PWK friends probably wouldn't care anyway. I wonder if he ever flies down to Mexico and brings back products from El Chapo to supplement his income like the Mennonites do?
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they might not care at the time, but such things have been known to become drips , , ,
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And yes a breakdown would be great ! we all want to know how to do the impossible and spend 850k a month. teach us o exalted one
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