Yes indeed.  PR's repeated little anecdote and the response it always elicited can only ever be understood from  the perspective of an implicit premie belief that first only his father and then only he, PR,  the annointed successor,  could ever 'guarantee salvation'.  

But speaking to Tim Freke he apparently never believed any of that 'Indian religion' .   So merely a barefaced liar who abused the position of trust and power that his promotion of 'Indian religion' had put him in?

Hans Jayanti 1979 I remember as a particularly troubled time in my own life.  It was a time of maximum cult fervour and  intensity and I'd been to about every festival and service opportunity going that year.  I was in the middle of doing a science PhD -- but basically doing nothing because the cult was taking up most of my time.  I was also with the lady who eventually became my wife - but was perilously close to wrecking everything that mattered in my life because of Rawat's baleful influence.  All roads seem to lead to ever greater cult involvement and probably the ashram.  I had dragged friends back into the cult and, shamefully, introduced at least one person into his trap.  I especially remember Kissimee 79 and the week-long moment by moment constant brainwashing  that we subjected ourselves to -- every moment listening to satsang, queuing up for things, waiting for PR to drive round the campsite, ferociously meditating in any downtime, looking for service to do.  But the most mind-abusing part really was  Rawat's 'satsangs' .  The real psychological problem that I had - and indeed everyone had -  was that - even by obeying agya and being there at all -  you had already invested so far that it only then made sense to completely trust whatever Rawat said and to drink in every word in rapt and uncritical attention.  Having people in such a deeply impressionable receptive  state was incredibly dangerous -  and the reason why - when you read them now - Rawat's words may seem just plain clumsy and ridiculous but they were in fact sometimes powerfully abusive and caused significant harm to many people in terms of the effects upon the course of people's lives.

There was one afternoon talk that Rawat gave at Kissimee 79 - a Monday afternoon I believe -  that I remember as particularly abusive and made me feel so inadequate and hopeless that I just crept back to my tent and wept.  Ocker Ji - if you don't mind maybe you could point to a transcript of that?

Tim