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aunt bea ®

01/31/2024, 09:00:05
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As always from you Susan, all really thoughtful insights and perspectives. So now that got me to think about it some more this morning.

Starting from the bottom: yes of course most victims don't become abusers. Than 1/6 statistic is crazy but doesn't surprise me. I myself was somewhat sexually abused as a child and I know plenty of other people. This is a whole crazy topic in itself, but not for here.

Back to Prem. As many other people here, I have been participating in this forum on and off for over 20 years. In that time I speculated about what Prem might really be like. From a young age he was surrounded by people fawning over him and he had a kind of unlimited power and privilege over them. And who knows what went on in private. His mother seemed super domineering for one thing.

Not to justify anything of course, but just to try and understand it. Such a deadly combination of ultimate power but probably also a sad and lonely private life as well. So this corrupts him and turns him into a sociopath. That we all knew already. And now we find out even worse.

But is seems like a specific pathology that happens to people like this. People who have extreme external privilege and private hardship. Of course just, like sexual abuse, it doesn't turn them all into monsters. But if you think about it, Prem is not the only one like this. Warren Jeffs, who is also second generation, seems to have similar traits. 

And then what about the original charismatic psychopaths who start these cults? In this case it would be Hans, which we don't know a lot about. But it seems like with other ones that we do know about, it is never just about money. They seem to crave power and once they get it they just push past all borders. Like it is some kind of validation of their power that they can literally do whatever they want. What they lack in genuine magical powers they make up for in psychological, physical and sexual abuse of their followers.

And with our second generation Prem it isn't so different. The easy money at some point becomes boring to them and they need to find other ways to make themselves feel mighty. I don't know. I am just rambling right now, but I think there is something to this. 

I am reminded of something Dettmers said about Prem wanting to have sex with other women. Dettmers said, "Well let's get some call girls." But Prem didn't want that. He wanted to abuse his followers, where there was the power dynamic. Where they would be subservient in a way that you can't pay a call girl for. This already is really awful if you really think about it. The damage that he must have caused and essentially wanted to cause in these women. Seriously evil, even though I don't like using that term.

Yet still, abusing your own children ... what is that about? What dies in someone that makes them do this?

It would seem that he is not a "real" pedophile in the sense that he can only get sexual arousal from children. Otherwise he would not have chased after women. It was just about the power. He wanted to control everything and everyone around him.








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