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Andries ®

09/09/2004, 13:55:38
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http://www.geocities.com/eckcult/cultexpose/crucible.html
Private and moral behavior is important according to him.

I am having a nasty but predictable edit war at Wikipedia about this.





Related link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_C._Lane

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Should this be linked to epo?
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la-ex ®

09/09/2004, 14:56:20
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I haven't read it entirely yet, but after skimming it briefly, this checklist would be a real eye opener for any premie....anyone think it should be directly linked to epo?






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No, it won't open any premie eyes
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Will ®

09/09/2004, 15:30:36
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For a premie to have remained a premie till now, they have to have adopted the attitude of non-judgement toward the Master.  This article won't bother them.  They will just say that nobody knows how a true Master would behave.  And that is true. 

Besides, there has never been a proven case of an enlightened Master.  They are all surrounded by conjecture and controversy.

Now if God really wanted to reveal himself, you'd think he could and he would.  I recently watched the old 50's movie called "The Next Voice You Hear."  God comes on the radio every Thursday night at 7:30 for a few weeks.  When there are two people in one room, for example, one who speaks English and one who speaks French, each person hears God's voice speaking in their own language.   Now that's more like it!  (Unforunately, even in this movie, God was a disappointment.  All he talked about is how people should behave themselves better).







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Re: Dr. David C. Lane on assessing a guru's authenticity -- Andries Top of thread Forum
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toby ®

09/09/2004, 15:21:02
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very good source andries, zappaz and richard will have a lot of work to do if they want to adapt rawat to it. probably they will decide that avoiding it will be easier.

toby







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09/09/2004, 15:30:38
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Good to know that I am not the only one who agrees with David C. Lane. The reactions that I got at Wikipedia made me think that either they or I must be crazy. I considered consulting a psychiatrist because of their reactions.

Andries







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Andries?
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09/09/2004, 16:40:21
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Re: Re: Dr. David C. Lane on assessing a guru's authenticity -- Andries Top of thread Forum
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09/10/2004, 00:29:28
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it is rather horrifying i see that. richard was invited by his girlfriend( a premie) to a program. i mean, his goal obviously seems to be to minimize the critics to a state that leaves everything open. and that on the critics page. zappaz and richard both have contacts , probably friends that are premies. they are trying to frustrate andries so much so that he might give up. and then they have their way free. they are using psychological tactics like ,ignoring clear evidence, not answering clear questions and keep stating their point. the premies in the majority as we know couldn't ever do that, because we know as we have seen here, they end up singing the praises of the living lord, who can do anything and cannot be taken responsible.

toby







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if they are squeezing the cult for money...then it makes sense.
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09/10/2004, 07:41:22
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He still gets it wrong on the authenticity issue.
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bill ®

09/09/2004, 19:37:46
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If there was a case that could be made for spiritual enlightenment, then Lane could discuss nuance to determine if this or that style of method was ok or not.

The whole premise of god realization is bogus from stem to stern, and provably so.

Finding some clean straws in a pig pen doesnt mean that particular pig can fly.

Finding some birds in a cage that seem sweet natured does not mean the cage life is the way to live a successful bird life. Oh sure, david lane might see how perhaps the hawk cant get at the bird in the cage, and perhaps there is this or that possible positive.

There is NO SUCH THING as a guru. There is god, and there is us.
There are no actual self god realized anyones anywhere.

The whole premise is not reality based.
Lane is not fully guru realized. Not fully "god realized" realized.

Sorry Andries, or rather, good news Andries, your former guru had NO possible way of being what he was pretending to be.

There are none that can.







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Andries, you may be interested to know that
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Jethro ®

09/10/2004, 00:38:04
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when I last spoke to Ron Geaves, I mentioned David Lane's writings and Ron told me that David Lane had made an 'academic mistake'.






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