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Will ®

10/21/2005, 09:31:07
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On another forum, see link, a newcomer asks:

Hi

Please can anyone briefly describe to me what Prem Rewat (AKA
"Maharaji")'s "techniques of knowledge" are?

I gather I now need to spend about 80 hours watching DVDs of the main
man talking (highly repetitively), before we are allowed to be told.

Yes I desperatly need to get back into meditation. But no, I do NOT
wish to waste 80+ hours of my life in order to find out something that
he was freely given.

Any ideas?

I have done Silva, TM and various Bhuddist meditational training.

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Shiperton Henethe

 





Related link: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.ex-cult/browse_frm/thread/e76ef115667e6406/aa24eb6a25402fdd?lnk=st&q=%22prem+rawat%22&rnum=1&hl=en#aa24eb6a25402fdd
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Entertaining link Will!
Re: 80 hours???? -- Will Top of thread Forum
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10/21/2005, 09:43:42
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Hi,

If you follow the discussion on Will's link you will see that someone is asking about getting knowledge without having to watch all those dvd's.

A premie steps in to help, and completely puts the guy off.







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Funny, and a little scary as well
Re: Entertaining link Will! -- 13 Top of thread Forum
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Will ®

10/21/2005, 10:43:21
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Very revealing, isn't it!

Rawat obviously thinks that people are going to want to watch him repeat himself for 80 hours!  What this reveals is his megalomania and his complete lack of respect for other people's intelligence. 

No intelligent person is going to be joining the ranks of Rawat's cult through the Keys process.  The Keys might catch a tiny number of nutcases.

So many new drips:  The Keys are bad.  They are going to fail.  They are entirely authored by Rawat himself.   The future for premies is looking pretty grim.  Time will tell.

But I don't think Rawat is going to give up.  His self-delusion is too great.  He surrounds himself with sycophants.  He manipulates his own press releases which nobody reads.  He ignores all criticism.  He puts on a carefully choreographed show and can't seem to see how transparently phony he appears to other people.  Worst of all, he can't possibly allow himself to view himself in reality or he would have a total breakdown.  A narcissist can look very peaceful and powerful when everyone around him is adoring him, but when things start to go bad, watch out - he can get very angry.






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10/21/2005, 10:58:13
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'He ignores all criticism.'

I don't think he gets any criticism. He is so surrounded by sychophants who don't want to lose their position; not too many people are going to be critical. I have been told as much by a current PAM.

How else could you explain his behaviour anyway? The fellow doesn't see things as the rest of us do - how could he? Imagine a life being surrounded by people who daren't critcise you - it would give you a pretty distorted view of the world. That and the adoration. And the money. It is all a cushion from the 'real' world that the rest of us live in.

I'd better stop now, before I become too sympathetic.

Maybe one day he will break through and start an ex-guru forum for those of them that finally see the light.






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10/21/2005, 11:58:50
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<b>Maybe one day he will break through and start an ex-guru forum for those of them that finally see the light.</b>

Can you imagine the clash of ego's, would make wicked and fascinating reading, even better would be a Big Brother type Guru's reality tv show, now that would be really fascinating to watch and wicked entertainment I reckon





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10/21/2005, 14:43:54
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I know of no case where a guru has "retired" or renounced his position.  Not a single one.

Krishnamurti comes the closest but he spent the last years of his life speaking to spiritual seekers about the path to true wisdom while enjoying all the benefits of gurudom.  He personified all the usual hypocrisies, including an affair with a married woman which he tried to keep secret.

Instead of coming clean about their fraudulent ways, gurus invariably play the part until the very end, and their idiot followers continue on after that!  No matter how bad it gets in terms of dwindling power and appeal, they keep up the charade with whomever will follow along.  And we all know what happens when it gets real bad - murder and suicide.  Many gurus do end quite badly.






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10/21/2005, 12:12:10
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That thread is such a classic, it's almost like it sums it all up,

How anyone can do that work for him nowadays, in a more normal environment than the cult one, without cringeing with embarrassment, well I find it hard to imagine.






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The poster "Jan" summed it up beautifully.
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Joe ®

10/21/2005, 13:24:17
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Hey Prem, Jan has your number:

The MINUS is that ALTHOUGH he proclaims that he wants to spread it for free  (the 4 meditation techniques, the understanding and recognition of that  process hopefully) to the whole world, if you record his TV transmissions  and give these to people (burn a DVD) he will send you a cease and desist  letter (I have an email from tprf.org here if you do not believe me, just  email me (remove N o S p a m from the email address). Why? there can be only one reason why, he wants to make money.


There are many things that happened in the past that confirm this (I know him since 1974 really). So the minis is that he will try to guide you into devotion for him, and you will end up giving him your money, time, dedication. So it is a trap, it is an old Indian trap, from the time of the caste system, how the priests made their slaves, call themselves superior.

 

Jan, you got that right.







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I tried to help...
Re: 80 hours???? -- Will Top of thread Forum
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10/22/2005, 11:24:24
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but couldn't get in (?)

 

the link is www.ex-premie.org/papers/medtech.htm if anyone wants to post into the group and help the guy.







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