Can you tell us a little more about what happened with your girlfriend?  After she joined the Rawat cult, did your relationship end?  Just wondered.

Regarding confronting Rawat and "his cronies" about the only way you could do that is by just saying things publicly, because Rawat is very well insulated from anyone who isn't a member of his cult.  His security, and the staging of the events in which he appears are so controlled and paranoid, that it is unlikely that a critic would  even be able to ask him a question.

For example, when I requested to attend a supposedly "public" event where Rawat was going to appear, I was officially told that I could not attend that that the cult would call the police on me if I showed up.  This is how paranoid Rawat is.

As for making his, or anybody else's life "a misery," I personally have no interest, because I personally do not care how Prem Rawat feels about his life. Rather, the purpose of all this, for me, is hopefully to get information to people like your girlfriend before they get conned into wasting their time following Rawat, like many of us have already done.

Anyhow, welcome, and sorry to hear about your girlfriend.

Thanks for the explanation.

A while back some women who recently left the cult talked about how video events are sometimes used by premie men to pick up female aspirants.  They were quite disgusted by it, but actually mentioned a few names.   I don't know if this happened to your girlfriend, but when you mentioned she took up with a premie, I thought of that discussion.

You aren't by any chance in Providence, are you?

Hi again,

I don't know what it is about some premie men (note I said some) hitting on female aspirants.  It was a practice for just a few guys I knew way back in the old days and it always created so many problems, mostly for the women involved.  Lots of times the women ended up being dumped and the guy moved onto the next one, but that was when there were usually a lot of aspirants to choose from.  Real movers, they were and yucky to watch.

It's like they take love-bombing into an entirely different dimension.  We churchladies (of both the male and female persuasion) never approved of the practice, but being so "non-judgmental" at the time, there wasn't much we could say or do, so basically we did nothing (regretfully).  Still, it really sucked especially when the woman ended up getting so hurt in the end.

You might want to read the sexual harrassment notice on Elan Vital-UK's website about this issue.  It's something to note, seeing that some EV members are feeling so free about moving in on females who are in the aspirant "process."  Actually, premie community contacts might want to read the EV sexual harrassment policy and take notice.

Policy Against Harassment

Elan Vital has a strict policy against sexual harassment or other forms of sexual misconduct. If you have been subjected to any form of sexual harassment or abuse by anyone associated or formerly associated with Elan Vital or other similar organizations, please contact Elan Vital’s National Director at P.O. Box 999, Hove, East Sussex BN3 3HZ or at nationaldirector@elanvital.org.uk.
Complaints will be responded to promptly and treated seriously.

http://www.elanvital.org.uk/elan_vital/values.html

Hi Blues...

I think I know how you feel, maybe.  When I was a premie in the mid-70s I had a premie boyfriend who I loved very, very much and our breakup was a result of our involvement with Maharaji.  My situation was different because we both were premies at the time and I ended up living in an ashram as a result of our break-up, but, that's a long, boring story...I don't need to repeat it again. 

It's surprising how much the cult has reacted to just our small ex-premie online presence here, and many folks have left Maharaji's cult as a result.  So, real action as one would think about it, sometimes isn't so effective as much as just being here at the forum and talking about the subject, day in and day out.  It's for people like you that I stay committed to sticking around and posting here.  It is difficult to understand why someone you love got hooked into a cult and you didn't, but there probably is a reason that you haven't yet figured out.  Once you learn more about this subject it probably will make more sense. 

If you aren't aware about the many websites available to help you understand the phenomemon of cults, I highly recommend reFocus as a start.  It has good, basic information to help you figure out what happened to your girlfriend. It's designed to help newly exiting cult members, as well as concerned loved-ones.  She probably was vulnerable in some way that you didn't know about.  You can click on this link:

http://www.refocus.org

The International Cultic Studies Association (ISCA) formerly called AFF or the American Family Foundation, gives more in-dept information about cults and how they work (some articles require payment, but most of the free information is also very good):

http://www.csj.org/

Stephen Hassan is a wonderful cult awareness expert that I also recommend.  What most cult experts recommend is that a concerned family member or loved one educate themselves about cults in general, and specifically about the cult that your loved one has joined:

http://www.freedomofmind.com/

The most important thing to remember is that there is mind-control or thought reform involved (what you referred to as indoctrination) and it probably was because your girlfriend has a receptive personality, or some other vulnerability, that she became susceptible to Rawat's con. 

Please feel free to ask any questions here, whether they are general or specific, about the Rawat cult.  It really does help to understand what you're dealing with. 

Welcome to the forum and best wishes to you,

Cynthia