Growing up in a LIE : reaching out to “premie children” ?
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01/15/2023, 13:10:48
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A few months have passed after my first post at the
ex-premie forum and a lot has happened since on many levels making me what to reach out again here to find people with whom we might be in the same boat: people who grew up in the same lie as children, Rawat being the "perfect master of the time", and then witnessed first hand the new policy in the cult of hiding the core teachings of rawat and presenting him as a humanitarian etc.

Being a premie for many years I can assure all readers of
this forum hat despite the fraudulent way Prem Rawat manages (or not) to cover
up his religious teachings under the disguise of “inspirational speaker”,
“peace ambassador” or “humanitarian”, in reality what him and his organizations
promote is a religion where the core belief dictated that Rawat stands all
other human beings and all worldly authorities, and this is a VERY dangerous belief system and this is why in democratic societies all humans are equal in front of the law, even the "perfect master".

But in this religion rawat stands above all other humans, he is not judged by the same standards, and just to remind what being a premie means, for those who don’t know or have forgotten, Rawat’s
followers are asked to take three “vows” (now they might be called “promises”
but they are still considered by both the students and the master as sacred
vows).

These three vows are:

1. to practice every day the techniques for life

(there is no legitimate reason for a person to stop
practicing),

2. by no means never and to no one show these techniques

 (a weird vow creating
a very intense psychological threat to the student who is prohibited to share
the “secret knowledge” even to their doctors, psychotherapists, or even legal
authorities – this is an absolute prohibition by the “Master” and many
ex-premies, including myself, have a hard time psychologically to “revel” the
techniques to non initiates, although these techniques are widely known to
people who do “yoga”.

Myself had panic crisis at my late 20s related to the
“practice” of those techniques but I could not talk about them to my
psychotherapist to get help. The therapist told me that we cant continue
therapy if I don’t tell him what techniques I practice and of course I did not
tell him the techniques I just stopped therapy..)

3. to always “keep in touch”

(ie listening for life to the “Master” and volunteer time
and give money to the “master”s organisations).

After taking those vows, the “premie” has to follow the
master’s directions and is not allowed to disagree with anything that the
master says or does: the major teaching from being an “aspirant” and then
becoming a “premie” is that one should not leave room for doubt in their minds”,
ie. abandon any critical thinking about the “Master” and his organization and
never read or listen to anything critical about him, and help him cover up
anything he wants to cover up from past and present, lie and present false
information to the public, media and authorities at the “master”s request.

I wanted to start with this basic description of a premie,
to highlight the psychological control that Rawat holds over his students, and
the effect in the lives of children growing up in premie families.

Children growing up in premie families either never become
Rawat’s students (having seen the effects his teachings have in their parents
lives, or, if their parents are good in leading a “double life”, they are clueless
on what their parents are into), or become students of Rawat from their
childhood, growing up with Rawat as, more than a father figure, God himself who
loves them unconditionally (more than their parents etc., according to Rawat,
his “love” is divine and true, all other worldly love is human, mortal and
biased).

The generation of premie children have a lot to say about
the cult, knowing both the past from their parents (who have possibly lots of early
divine light mission leaflets, Satsang tapes, pictures, then elan vital
material, visions international or dunrite videos, and then all the new
directions about hiding the past and pretending to be a humanitarian, and peace
ambassador when this idea of VIP and prestige events came up, along with the
TPRF charity “front organization” of the Rawat cult.

Premie children who became premies because of very early
indoctrination to the religion of their parents, rawatism, are usually very
kind, talented, and enthusiastic young people who are tormented by this feeling
that “something’s wrong” but it’s very hard for them to see Rawat for what he
really is, so “deprogramming” a premie child is difficult and painful, because
the core of their personality is a firm believer of Rawat trusting him at an
emotional level more than their parents or anyone else on earth.

Finding out that their God and father not only he never ever
loved them or anyone else, but also was an actual criminal who by means of
fraud took people’s money AND their souls: made them his obedient slaves who
will follow anything he says, lie for him and cover up what he needs to cover
up for him to continue the fraud and exploitation of others, is not easy and
can be extremely painful.

The premie children should have support in an organized way
in my humble opinion, and at the moment there is none besides this forum, where
people are mostly ex premies who entered the cult as adults and have different
issues to resolve than the people who became rawat followers not because of
“searching” for truth, but because of growing up in a huge LIE which includes
their parents and this is very hard to deal with.

I was so fortunate to have a god friend from my teenage
years who did all the research to find out the truth about prem rawat to help
me get out of it 20 years later, and then supported me in all ways until I
could understand what had happened in my life, and how and why my whole life,
from when I remember myself, was looking now as a bad joke: but not all premie
children have that, and I know a lot who don’t have anyone in their environment
that could help them.

Growing up with premie parents can also be very hard for a
child, even if they do not become premies themselves, but in both cases the
effects are deeper, more complex and need to be addressed so that the premie
children, now adults, understand what happened in their lives and manage also
to talk about it openly.

Breaking the silence is so important.

It’s really about not being afraid to be honest and speak
out about someone who took us for a ride and more…

But we are very much afraid of this person because we grew
up revering him as God..

I am still afraid of Rawat.

I am sure most of the children who grew up with his photo as
God on earth by their bed, even as adults no fear him just the same.

This is the reason IMO they do not speak up and don’t write
in this forum to only “spell the beans” and say: Our parents were fooled by a
conman and criminal and led us to be followed as well, we now need to stop this
from happening to other children, because WE CAN, not by telling anyone who to
believe to, but only by NOT LYING and SAYING the truth about what happened in
our lives what we believing in and what were the effects of that belief system.

Believing Rawat is the “Perfect master of the time” and that
whatever he does is “divine” and “perfect”, then simply to allow people to have
information about who prem rawat is and what he actually does is crucial.

The only think that can stop children from growing up in
cults like the rawat cult is information and truth about the leader of the cult
and his actions.

Children of premies have seen the effect of prem rawat in
their parents lives and in their lives and whether they became premies or not
they have a lot of useful information and a lot of common issues to resolve
(take for example the parents who were following rawat at events and were
leaving their children without any concern for them, or trusted other “premies”
blindly and left their children to them with high risk for sexual molestation, and
many times that did happened, or other who went to work or volunteer at the
“residence” taking their children to malibu with them etc.)

Premie parents of children who became premies in that
respect are even harder to deprogram because of their guilt and shame of what
they got their children into and how they are responsible for destroying their
children’s lives by maing them psychologically enslaved (and if the premie
children are “passionate with knowledge” as I was, dedicate their lives fully)
to a conman and a criminal.

Another major issue (for me at least, but I think common to many
premie children who do love their premie parents and are devastated by having
to tell them the truth about rawat) is how to explain to our premie parents
what happened without facing gaslight etc. or/and considered an enemy by the
family.

So I wanted to ask if you are a child of premies, and you
know what I am talking about, I would really want to get in touch with you and
help out understand how to deal with the above mentioned issues, and “compare
notes” are regards the way Rawat and his organization operate after the 90s
from our own personal experiences, and put it in perspective with what we know
now as ex-premies both from the forum and other information we have that led us
out of the rawat world in which sadly we grew up in…








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