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07/03/2006, 06:41:33
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Prem Rawat Brings Message of Peace to People in Vancouver

More than 800 people gathered at the Massey Theatre in New Westminster, British Columbia, to listen to Prem Rawat talk about "the possibility of being alive." "I'm here to talk about one simple thing that dwells in the heart of every human being," he said. "It is in this simplicity that peace resides. It is in this simplicity that your heart wants to dance."

New Westminster, British Columbia (PRWEB) July 3, 2006 -- More than 800 people gathered at the Massey Theatre in New Westminster, British Columbia, to listen to Prem Rawat talk about "the possibility of being alive."

"I'm here to talk about one simple thing that dwells in the heart of every human being," he said. "It is in this simplicity that peace resides. It is in this simplicity that your heart wants to dance."

Prem Rawat, who is also known around the world by the honorary title Maharaji, has been inspiring people to satisfy a thirst that each person has for peace and happiness, since he was a child in India. Since then, he has brought his message to audiences in more than 50 countries around the world. His presentations are distributed in 70 languages in a variety of media.

Speaking for about an hour without notes, Prem Rawat urged audience members to make room in their lives for the simple joy of living and said he offers a practical way to do so.

"Let's feel. Let's understand. Let's enjoy," he said. "Let us fill the cup inside with joy, with gratitude, with understanding, and with clarity. This is the possibility of being alive."

The response from audience members was enthusiastic. "I have been drawing from his wisdom and clarity for a long time," said psychologist Leon Hawrtelenko. "Maharaji’s talks are a major source of guidance and have influenced the way I think about life and my connections to people."

Deborah Fauteux, a Calgary-based artist who was seeing Prem Rawat for the first time, said she felt "relaxed and very much gifted to be in such an environment. He expresses himself with such simple common sense. I appreciate that he traveled so far to speak to each of us about our blessings as human beings."

For 94-year-old Rupert William Wyckham, Prem Rawat’s speech addressed a long-standing quest. "I have been wanting to find a way to go inside for a long time," he said. A retired sales manager for a leading Toronto marketing firm, Wyckham, who now lives in Vancouver, attended the event with his daughter.

To discover more about Prem Rawat and his message of peace: [TPRF]







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And Dublin - the possibility of paying sponsorship money -
Re: Vancouver: "The possibility of being alive"... -- Cynthia Top of thread Archive
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07/03/2006, 11:42:38
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That's the only way you can go if you're a UK resident premie.

I received the following email today from the UK Keeping in Touch team. Good news for rich UK premies - you CAN go to Dublin if you pay 250 Euros, and get preferential seating too. Bad news for those UK premies who can't afford the sponsor money. They CAN'T go. Sponsor money doesn't apply if you're Irish. Here's the email:


YOU ARE WARMLY INVITED ...

TO SPONSOR THE EVENT IN DUBLIN..??

If you choose the sponsor option (250 Euro ) you will be greatly helping to support the event and in thanks will be offered preferential seating ...

Unfortunately due to the limited capacity of the hall ...we
cannot accept registrations from people in the uk who are unable to help support the event as sponsors.

for your own personal invitation...log on to....
http://www.dublin2006.info/invitation.html
or wordsofpeace.net

best wishes
Dublin Event team







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Prem Rawat wants 250 Euros to see him?...
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07/03/2006, 12:15:07
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Wow, that's really pricey. I wonder if anyone really cares enough to part with that much money for his 40th Anniversary as a has-been Guru.  He has big events scheduled for India and Amaroo, too.  He's doing the exact same thing this year that he's done before, with all the programs back to back and then big ones at the end.  It's just like 1978 and 1979.  He held program after program then had the Kissimme ones.

He's burning the premies them out again.

That invitation is awful.  No only does he sound like an idiot, but the music is haunting, and not in a good way! 

This guy never pays his own way.  Pathetic.

What a has-been cult leader.







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Yes, if you're a UK premie
Re: Prem Rawat wants 250 Euros to see him?... -- Cynthia Top of thread Archive
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Hi Cynthia,

Yes, that music really is awful!

But what's so bad about this is that EV is cashing in on the problem of limited numbers by squeezing as much money as they can out of the premies. I think it's perverse, given how rich Rawat is. It's no longer on a first come first served basis. It's wealthy served, non-wealthy - sod off!

May be I shouldn't joke about it, because premies have very deep rooted feelings of devotion towards M, so this is truly twisted. I hope the premies can see that. The devotion and love for M (that premies feel), should not be equated with the ability to pay large sums of money. And the gopi premies, who may have been contributing £10 a month or so for many years, are just pushed to one side, if they can't come up with a large sum.

It's always been about money for Rawat, and supporting his luxury lifestyle. No change there. And I can imagine him telling premies that he's sending money to an eye hospital somewhere, just before he flies off in his G5 private jet.







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Re: Prem Rawat wants 250 Euros to see him?...
Re: Prem Rawat wants 250 Euros to see him?... -- Cynthia Top of thread Archive
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Do you know how much it cost to 'sponsor' the New West event?  I was just wondering how much it cost my ex to learn that he was, yup, alive. 






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Get your holy doggie darshan here...
Re: Re: Prem Rawat wants 250 Euros to see him?... -- premie-ex Top of thread Archive
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Hi Premie-ex,

I don't know how much money -- the most they can get away with charging.  Where's New West? 

I wonder what Captain Prem is doing with JuJu the dog while he's in the UK.  He needs quarantining, I think.

Prem probably needs the extra cash for boarding JuJu the dog in his own luxury suite outside the country.  Based on my experience and knowledge with gurus and dogs, the dog deserves the accommodations more than the guru. 

Click below and meet meet Guru Mahamarji, the holy dog and his holy dog family!!  Courtesy of Chuck the ex-premie and/or PatC.

I can't believe this site is still up.  Cracks me up.  And when I searched for it, I put in "doggie darshan" and it was the first hit on Google.  Ha ha ha, it's hilarious.

It's July 4th weekend here and we've got summery fun going on.

Cynthia 

 





Related link: Click here for Doggie Darshan

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Hail Mahamarji!
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This one at least I could believe might be capable of giving some honest affection!  Thanks for that - what a cute little guru.  New West is where m showed up for the Vancouver event on May 21; the one that attracted the above 800, count 'em, 800 seekers after real true truth.  Including my ex, who lost 2 days pay and spent, at a minimum, over $100.00 for travel costs (not to mention whatever he paid for all that merchandise he came staggering home with) to attend.  And I was wondering if, on top of all this, he had actually spent more than 300 CDN to get into the venue - all to find out he is, in fact, alive.

I would have been happy to tell him that for free.






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The people of Ulster must be outraged
Re: And Dublin - the possibility of paying sponsorship money - -- Stardust Top of thread Archive
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07/03/2006, 12:24:03
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Either EV is saying that if you live north of the border it'll cost you e250 - or EV does not consider Ulster to be part of the UK. Now there's sensitivity for our peace promoting guru !

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Re: The people of Ulster must be outraged
Re: The people of Ulster must be outraged -- Nik Top of thread Archive
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07/03/2006, 13:29:40
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Maybe not.

I sat next to a premie woman with an Ulster accent you could cut with a knife, on the plane back from Rome to London in 1996.  As we approached Gatwick I asked her how long she would have to wait for her connection to Belfast. She looked at me as if I was psychic or something & said......'.how did you know that's where I'm going.'

Lots of premies have little connection to the real world of common or garden observation, let alone anything more complicated.

Lambs to the slaughter in many cases.








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Boy, it really doesn't sound like a cult anymore, does it?
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"Let's feel. Let's understand. Let's enjoy," he said. "Let us fill the cup inside with joy, with gratitude, with understanding, and with clarity. This is the possibility of being alive."

The response from audience members was enthusiastic. "I have been drawing from his wisdom and clarity for a long time," said psychologist Leon Hawrtelenko. "Maharaji’s talks are a major source of guidance and have influenced the way I think about life and my connections to people."






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A rose by any other name...
Re: Boy, it really doesn't sound like a cult anymore, does it? -- Jim Top of thread Archive
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He only knows 200 words and sometimes he gets them mixed up...
Re: Boy, it really doesn't sound like a cult anymore, does it? -- Jim Top of thread Archive
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The premies have that weird adreneline program rush going, too but it's like they can't really get it up anymore.  From the inner circle travel blog.

060624_tenerife_lei052 Maharaji expressed life is not about rushing for planes, being tired and stressed out - it’s about ENJOYING!

That was very clear and it was particularly relevant for me because I missed my flight and they told me no more planes to Tenerife, I knew I had to be there!

I ran to the next desk… there was one more flight that had been delayed, so I was put on it! I was very happy to be going to hear once again about something so special.

He mentioned all the dates for events are set for this year.  So many places have invited him - they will be happy to have Maharaji come and visit.

--Leila






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Re: He only knows 200 words and sometimes he gets them mixed up...
Re: He only knows 200 words and sometimes he gets them mixed up... -- Cynthia Top of thread Archive
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that was a funny post title!

God do I hate that message of his: "life is not about rushing for planes, being tired and stressed out - it’s about ENJOYING!"


It's just such a post-modern "it's all about me" philosophy. And plain old stupid and childish. Life is the complete spectrum of emotions, including being pissed off, provocative, broken-hearted, confrontational, deconstructionist, melancholy, silly and straight up miserable sometimes. That's what makes life great. It also means fucking being responsible for the people around you.

This idea that peace and joy is something we are all looking for, the ultimate goal in life, is simply taken for granted and never ever questioned. Well I'm not only questioning it, I'm saying fuck that shit. What a moron.

Personally my best moments are when I'm edgy. It's when I'm at my most creative. I just hating sitting on the beach and feeling peaceful. Bored now.






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Does he still confuse selfish with shellfish? NT...
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How about "dinosaur" and "Dinah Shore?"
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Re: How about "dont give me chocolates" and "gimme your bleeding money instead"
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try as I might Pauline
Re: How about "dinosaur" and "Dinah Shore?" -- Pauline Premie Top of thread Archive
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07/05/2006, 07:11:34
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I just can't top that one. I love it. Actually I can top it, but I can't say on a public forum, cause it might make me a million dollars some day.

But if I was to get a sex change and become a porn star, I would call myself Kitten Caboodle. I can just imagine my first movie: "Oodles of Caboodles".






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But at least he was right that oil came from dinosaurs
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Although I admit he did mispronounce them "Dinah Shores," but that's an easy mistake.  But he did get the major point right, that the reason there was an oil shortage in the late 70s was that there weren't enough dinosaurs.   Because he is all knowing, he was of course right about that.








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Re: How about "dinosaur" and "Dinah Shore?"
Re: How about "dinosaur" and "Dinah Shore?" -- Pauline Premie Top of thread Archive
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07/05/2006, 21:52:49
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I remember being at satsang after M said "Dinah Shore" where an instructor said that this wasn't a mistake by him but rather a pun.  It was a reference to the movie "Oh God" where Dinah Shore appears as herself interviewing God as played by George Burns.  If this instructor was correct about this the implication was that M equated himself to God.  If this wasn't Rawat's intention the instructor certainly implied it.

Kabir







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I remember Brain McDermott with another explanation
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He said that Rawat was saying it to blow our minds. He said it really bugged his mind that Rawat was both wrong about where oil came from, and mispronounced "dinosaurs," and he did it to help him (and I guess the rest of us, too), surrender.

But of course that is bullshit.  Rawat was just being an uneducated, arrogant, idiot, and as premies, we rationalized anything that implied that Rawat wasn't all-knowing and all powerful, or else we just repressed it.  Such is the world of a cult.







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nuculear ( him and Bush ) (nt)
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and the gospel of John the Baptist - remember that? (nt)
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Re: and the gospel of John the Baptist - remember that?
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Yes I vaguely remember that, I was probably nodding off at the time, but they told me afterwards.
In my reverie, it was just accepted as gospel, until the chuckles around me, woke me up.





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Man, you are SOOOO right!
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"...It's just such a post-modern "it's all about me" philosophy...."

That is the entire trip in a nutshell! It's all about me, Me, ME!

Well, no it's not, Marajee! It isn't ALL ABOUT ME! It's about my wife, it's about my child, it's about my friends, it's about my comrades, it's about my country, it's about many things, but it isn't ABOUT ME and MY enjoyment!

Sure, I want to enjoy life as much as the next guy. That's why I do things to relieve the stress of my involvement in activities....... I hunt, I fish, I camp, I backpack, I do all kinds of things. But, rarely do I do these things alone! Even THEN, when I am trying to relieve some stress, I care more about relieving the stress of those around me than I do relieving my OWN stress. I care more about relieving the daily stresses my wife endures than I do my own.

It's called "love," not that fake "feeling" that you describe M, but a call to action. I love my wife and my child, I can do no less than to care about them more than I care about myself. Same goes for my "people" when I was their leader in the military and the same goes for my country (and other countries, too). I love them and that means I have to put THEM ahead of ME! ALWAYS! If I don't, then what it is that I am "experiencing," isn't love. Duhhhhhhhhhh!

This really is soooooo simple, M. It isn't about YOU and it isn't about ME....... it's about OTHERS who we claim to love! You once said that when you wear that "crown," that it reminded you that all the premies are in it and, thus, above your head! Really, M? Really? If you REALLY feel that way, why don't you pay to have every premie, who cannot afford to go to an event, to get there! WHy not fly them in that G5 that they purchased for you with their sweat and money? HMMMMM????? Why don't you sit the poorest amongst them in the front row and put all the well-to-do types in the back row for a change? Why don't you do this, M? I'll tell you why! Because you don't love the premies, you love the materials they can give you. That's why!

I don't love my wife because she "gives" me anything. I love her because...... that is the only reason..... just "because I love her!" Get it? See? It really isn't all that hard to understand this.







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Re: He only knows 200 words and sometimes he gets them mixed up...
Re: He only knows 200 words and sometimes he gets them mixed up... -- Cynthia Top of thread Archive
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"He only knows 200 words and sometimes he gets them mixed up..."

This line has to be one of the funniest, It's been giving me chuckles all day!

G'night





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my favorite part
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Speaking for about an hour without notes

Like that is supposed to mean something.

Hey, that reminds me. I was at a design conference recently, where many people 'spoke for about an hour without notes' by the way. As a gag, they had a PowerPoint Karaoke contest. What that means is you stand up in front of a thousand people and do a presentation without ever having seen the transparencies before. You only know the title of the presentation.

So being the complete idiot that I am, and because the prizes were worth 500 Euros, I joined the competition and got second place! Now that was B.L.I.S.S. I was also definitely the people's choice. The judges gave another guy first prize, well, because their German, and I completely improvised and ignored the transparencies. I was told I did Brazilian style for those of you who understand football.

So now that I have that behind me, I can say, "Prem, I challenge you any day of the week to a Perfect Master Satsang Karaoke. I kick yo butt!"






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You got that right!
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Auntie,
I can speak on substantive subjects (e.g. astro-related) for hours on end without notes...... just ask those physics students that I get to teach on occasion

The thing that kills me about rawat is his ability to speak for hours without saying anything substantive...... now THAT is a skill! Not only that, it's the same thing over and over and over and over.

Karaoke presentations?????? NOW THAT sounds like fun! I'll bring that idea up to the sponsor of a particular conference that I attend every year. What a great way to have some fun. We'd know enough about the subject(s) to be "dangerous." Really, thanks for the idea! Maybe we can do it during one of our happy hours........ that would make it especially funny.






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Re: You got that right!
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"The thing that kills me about rawat is his ability to speak for hours without saying anything substantive...... "   At programs with Rawat I repeatedly had the experience of not remembering much of what he said after I left the hall.  I rationalized this by believing that he spoke to my heart while bypassing my brain and thought process.  Now I understand that his talks were usually free of meaningful hence memorable content.  This was in contrast to lectures that I attended where there was substantive information presented that I did remember after the talk.

Kabir







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So now he's telling us that it's possible to be alive?
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Well, duhhhhhhhhh! What a twit! How could anyone sit and listen to this twaddle and not realize, immediately, that they are dealing with an idiot.

Wow.... it's possible to be....... ALIVE!

Who does he think he is, Dr. Frankenstein?







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