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05/13/2006, 02:16:39
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Oh boy, do members of the public take any notice of this kind of waffle?  To my eyes the writers of these puff-pieces come across as being sincere but also really weird.

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MONTREAL, May 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Prem Rawat, known also as Maharaji, has provided inspiration and guidance to millions of people worldwide on how to find peace within. He recently addressed a capacity international audience of people interested in his message of peace at Centre Pierre-Peladeau.

Speaking about a fundamental desire to be fulfilled that all human beings have had in common century after century, he said: "Our aspirations haven't changed, our hopes haven't changed, our desires haven't changed. We just want to be happy. We want to be content. That's it."

He then went on to talk about peace and outlined what he means by peace: "I talk about peace to people. People think peace is the absence of war. That's not peace. That's a ceasefire. Peace is not the absence of sound. Peace is not a beautiful sunset. Peace is not on top of some mountain. Peace is peace. Peace is about a feeling."

After the event, people who had come to hear him expressed heartfelt appreciation for what he had said. For Marcel Allaire, an accountant in Montreal: "Maharaji gives me inspiration. Life can be so busy, but here is something that makes me feel fresh again, and listening to him is like taking a holiday."

Jean Grondin, a statistician, said, "I love listening to him. It helps me identify and remember what is important in my life."

Nicole Garneau, who works with the City of St. Laurent, added: "He helps me prioritize what is important to me, in my own life. I can see more clearly where I am at in life and what I need, for my own self. He shows me how to get in touch with myself, which gives me a special perspective that helps me in my life."

"I am always curious to hear what Maharaji has to say," said Marie Elaine Roy, a narrator and university student. "He has a very personal way of talking about human nature. I can relate because what he says about human nature is really like talking about me. And whether what he says makes me laugh or moves me, it always feels good."

Prem Rawat has emerged as a leading voice for peace. Traveling the world continuously, he has been invited to share his message with distinguished audiences of civic, business, government, and academic leaders around the globe. Last year, nearly two million people attended his events. His words are regularly translated into 70 languages and distributed in more than 80 countries. Excerpts of his talks are featured in the television program "Words of Peace," which is broadcast regularly throughout the world.

He is the founder of The Prem Rawat Foundation, which furthers his message of peace internationally and spearheads humanitarian initiatives aimed at improving the quality of life for people most in need. The Foundation provides food aid and humanitarian relief to help victims of disasters throughout the world.

Source: The Prem Rawat Foundation, pressrelations@tprf.org">pressrelations@tprf.org , 310-392-5700. To discover more about Prem Rawat, his message of peace, and the humanitarian activities of The Prem Rawat Foundation: http://tprf.org/Maharaji/Maharaji.htm For more information on Words of Peace: http://www.wordsofpeace.com





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I love the way premies are quoted
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JHB ®

05/13/2006, 02:38:49
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Jean Grondin, a statistician, said, "I love listening to him. It helps me identify and remember what is important in my life."

Yes, folks, even a statistician can enjoy Rawat's message of peace.







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05/13/2006, 05:08:13
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I wonder then, if Prem Rawat is going to the Middle East soon, to create some peace there.  Heaven knows he's greatly needed there.  He could bring people a practical way to feel that feeling of inner peace, especially when the car bombs are going off.

Isn't that a paraphrase of his teenaged wisdom:  Peace isn't an absence of war?  Hmmm...that's some evolution of thought you've got going there, Sant Ji.






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a quantum leap of reasonlng
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05/13/2006, 05:48:03
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How glibly he uses the word peace. 
It's quite a gap, 4 yoga postures to... Peace.  Unqualified, unconditonal,  undefined, unproven... Peace.  Not the absence of war, no not that .. a peace that makes that peace hardly worth a mention, (unless it can be used to make his own point) except here, peace was a passing name for the commodity, the goods, exchanged for wealth. 

Why the needless wealth, the senseless waste?  It is being able to spend money like water and command an endless stream like lakshmi that prove his original theory: that is ... oh ... you know...


Listening Politely






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05/13/2006, 10:45:03
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You've hit the nail on the head, LP. "Glib" is a totally valid description of the way Rawat and his proselytisers use the word "peace" to bait their (collective) hook.

I've got a couple of questions I'd like to put to all and sundry, viz:

1. This so-called 'peace' that Rawat and his students claim to live in - is it reflected in the reality outside themselves?

2. If not, isn't that so-called 'peace' nothing more than a way of sweeping the problems of the world "under the carpet", and carrying on as if nothing matters other than one's personal 'blissful' ignorance?

If so, I would seriously suggest that Rawat's self-appointed status as "Ambassador for Peace" should be better classified as "Ambassador for Ignorance and Bliss"

Ironic, considering that it's "Knowledge" that he touts!

Chris
(who's enjoyed reading your posts, though has been too ... shy? ... to say)






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Re: two questions
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05/13/2006, 12:30:13
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Hi cq, thanks for your appropriate posts and timing..

Re 1. One of the most convincing things I remember, that pushed me away, was to see the way the domestic scenario of the family was not at peace, but heated arguments seemed to be going on. Nor were those close followers who did direct service, particularly at peace. These, in particular, some confided to me, were feeling a gnawing emptiness, bordering on despair at times.

2. Indeed when one actively seeks to locate the peace of the participants, one is more likely to encounter the stillness of a wall of silence, than a recognisable state of peace.

Probing deeper usually reveals a series of reactive counter measures designed: yes, to steer the subject away from questions, or world news. These take the form of learned responses, off-pat answers to FAQ's. and steers: techniques designed to swing the subject back to rawat again. Now this set of conditions will have to be changed; they will have to try not to mention him personally, how will it hang together?  Sounds like a famous recipe.

Premies are only at ease with one subject, and only then if they are in discussion with a follower of equal saturation. They are happiest, as is rawat, when they can trust the conversation to swirl always around, a generally positive appraisal of, things required to be a premie. They feel safe when they have tested and identified that the barrier which prevents a mind from straying into the land of doubts, is firmly in place. only then can they relax with a.n.other.

There is no real posssibilty of conversation. Any one harbouring doubts or in operation of an untethered mind is a serious threat. Anyone expressing a contrary mind set is perceived to have already gone on the attack!

Strangely, they don't perceive that they do this, and often perceive themselves to be the life and soul of the party, hugging and back slapping, playing the stand up comic, talking loudly...   But it is all shallow banter and mutual self congratulation: reaffirmations of their shared specialness over the general populace.

Truly, 'peace' through blissful ignorance... and don't forget to bring your blindfolds!

The closed-mind path;


Thanks cq

lp





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Re: two questions
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05/14/2006, 19:25:34
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Another great post, LP.  Thanks.

Nigel







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"Peace is more than the absence of war"
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05/14/2006, 12:58:43
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Hi Cynthia!  Yes, I remember premies going on about Rawat having said this--as though he invented the concept!  Of course. back when I was swooning about premiehood, this little phrase hooked very nicely into my 70's/80's political activist leanings and longs.  Wow!  Two for the price of one--spiritual bliss and the "right" kind of political stance as well.

I wish I could say that this was in my "misguided youth", but alas, I was in my early 40's.  Shoulda known better...oh yeah!

Well, some of us are late-bloomers...

And I'm not talking about underwear

~Shelagh







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