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I'd still like to know what is on that special bonus DVD..... maybe I should........ NOT! Can you imagine being a premie nowadays and being EXPECTED to let an organization auomatically bill your credit card, ad infinitum? Are these people nuts? Plus the fact that they have all of your personal info..... has any premie thought of the very simple fact that someone in that org just might not be a good guy (it only takes one) and could easily do identity theft? This is a terrible idea....... leave it to the Ronco of guru's to use these "techniques" to grab your hard-earned cash..... and Ronco has one thing over this..... they have a money back guarantee if you aren't TOTALLY SATISFIED! The guru has never made such guarantees and he supposedly INVENTED satisfaction!
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Hi NAR,
In the universe in which I live it is perfectly normal to allow organisations to automatically bill your credit card. Maybe not ad infinitum but at least while they go one supplying electricity, telephones, internet accounts, inner peace, ...
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Somehow, I just don't think that EV will go much beyond the "grace" for their security efforts. I could be wrong, but why should I think that they care about anything other than siphoning more money off to the gooroo?
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While I haven't try to provide any offerings I am pretty sure that EV would use commercial security on their internet and banking dealings. If there is one thing Rawat is obsessed with it is security. Now that means his security not the premies but the money is coming to him so it is his money and his security concerns. As they do care about siphoning money off to the gooroo as you so gracelessly put it then security of those transactions and their continuity is of the utmost importance to them.
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I am afraid Mr Rawat tells the truth in this instance. The Knowledge is free and quite rightly so as that's what it is worth. Nobody has to buy the monthly DVD's and even today the drop-out rate is probably still very high no matter how long you have to wait befiore you are "revealed the techniques".
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"This Knowledge" is not simply receiving the techniques and you must vow to 'keep in touch' with Rawat to be shown the techniques. 'Keeping in touch' with Rawat costs money.
Even being shown the techniques cost some money; it is stated that 'shipping and handling charges may apply'.
It's like saying that something is free with your paid subscription.
No, Rawat doesn't get off on a technicality.
He practices a bait-and-switch.
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interesting point, the symbolism in what he used for bait and what the real nature of that switch/hook was; is food for thought... we were the bait...!!
.....each successive fish was used as bait for the next one..
... By this means he climbed higher up the socio-financial ladder 'til he was catchin' the big fish in all the major countries ...so he could cart them off to the Australian desert, make them play weird ball and chair games, while he shouted at them and called them a'holes and took signed pledges for more of their money when they were most broken and grovelling for forgiveness......
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Your metaphor about the successive fish being caught being used as bait ad infinitum is possibly the best one I've ever seen to describe the proselytisation process.
However, Rawat has not caught any big fish in all the major countries. Compare the famous premies to the Scientologists for example. Are there any famous and fabulously rich premies?
Amaroo is not in the Australian desert, it is only a few (20-30) miles from the coast as the crow flies and is half an hour's drive from some of the most productive horticultural farming areas in Australia. To a European it may appear a little dry but it is nothing like an Australian desert.
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somebody is paying for it all, it's certainly not the poor majority .. I stand corrected on Amaroo..but I guess the rest was more or less accurate.
Modified by LP at Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 16:43:50
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Where I live the majority isn't poor but middle class and they can manage some reasonable donations. So if you were more accurate give us some figures and some names or some evidence. On the other hand, these are very difficult things to have any information on unless you worked in the finance side of EV or TPRF.
I assume there are about 10 to 12,000 active premies in the West. I make this estimate because I think there are about 600 active premies in Australia which is about half of what it was around 1980 when 20-25,000 people gathered at the big annual festivals so I assume there are about half of that number left in the West. If half of them were making monthly donations of $100 that's over $5 million pa. Mind you the donation ideas are pure speculation on my part.
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thanks for info: $100 a month is still more than most people I know would part with on a regular basis.
besides $5m would barely cover his flying costs wouldn't it. I am only going on info in EPO. and impressions gained by studying transcripts, but I have no reason to doubt them.
Modified by LP at Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 17:52:02
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let's see now, say 35 years at 100 a month, that's over forty thousand .
...even at the bargain basement rate, inner life melt downs don't come cheap!
Modified by LP at Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 03:35:21
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