Look, these were bonafide websites before I linked 'em . . ...
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Dr.wow ®

04/04/2006, 21:20:43
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. . . now they're like, gone with the wind . . . Listen to me,  I'm not crazy, honest . . . you gotta believe me . . . they were honest-to-goodness websites, commercial portals, son-and-daughter-of-greater-than-god-portals of filthy, evil, capitalist, lucre . . . I tell no lie . . . listen . . . it's true, won't you believe me . . . they've plum disappeared . . . ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

http://www.dayarawat.com/   (gone-ji)

http://amarrawat.org/         (zippity-do-dah)

Seriously, these were two functional commercial portal websites until I linked 'em here: http://www.prem-rawat-talk.org/forum/posts/4077.html







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Registrant: PureVoice, LLC
Re: Look, these were bonafide websites before I linked 'em . . ... -- Dr.wow Top of thread Archive
Posted by:
G ®

04/04/2006, 21:41:30
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So says a networksolutions.com whois search

WHOIS Search

amarrawat.org (and similar for dayarawat.org):
Domain ID:D104674515-LROR
Domain Name:AMARRAWAT.ORG
Created On:26-Jul-2004 17:45:02 UTC
Last Updated On:28-Mar-2006 12:39:59 UTC
Expiration Date:26-Jul-2006 17:45:02 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Bulk Register (R21-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:JF543-BR
Registrant Name:Registrant Services
Registrant Organization:PureVoice, LLC
Registrant Street1:P. O. Box 1485
Registrant City:Thousand Oaks
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:91358
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+01.8053796777
Registrant FAX:+013.107461541253
Registrant Email:pureVoice@iname.com
Admin ID:JF543-BR
Admin Name:Registrant Services
Admin Organization:PureVoice, LLC
Admin Street1:P. O. Box 1485
Admin City:Thousand Oaks
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:91358
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+01.8053796777
Admin FAX:+013.107461541253
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:pureVoice@iname.com
Tech ID:JF543-BR
Tech Name:Registrant Services
Tech Organization:PureVoice, LLC
Tech Street1:P. O. Box 1485
Tech City:Thousand Oaks
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:91358
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+01.8053796777
Tech FAX:+013.107461541253
Tech Email:pureVoice@iname.com
Name Server:UDNS1.ULTRADNS.NET
Name Server:UDNS2.ULTRADNS.NET









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They weren't commercial portals
Re: Look, these were bonafide websites before I linked 'em . . ... -- Dr.wow Top of thread Archive
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JHB ®

04/05/2006, 00:57:56
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They were registered domains parked with the registrars, who use the parking for advertising.  If they are gone you could register them and start websites for the entire family!  When Amar is Perfect Master, amarrawat.org should be worth a bit. 

John.






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Help me out here . . . (OT)
Re: They weren't commercial portals -- JHB Top of thread Archive
Posted by:
Dr.wow ®

04/05/2006, 21:11:49
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. . . I thought that people who want to reserve a domain name without actually having a present use for it could simply purchase the rights for a year or so and then renew it.   Is there some kind of cyber law that says that the domain name has to actually be out there in use?   If so, is that why people would willingly let their paid for domain name be attached to websites that they don't have any control over?  What is the central regulating/domain name issuing body?  Does this organization then licence domain name issuance to various registrars?  If so, are there any particular prerequisites to qualify a registrar to sell domain names to registrants besides money?

I was wondering why the "org" extension for Amar.  Telling - no? 

But anyway, please explain if you can.  As NAR so astutely pointed out, I've been up for two days straight meditating and I haven't got a clue . . .







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I'll try (OT)
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Posted by:
JHB ®

04/07/2006, 09:08:33
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I haven't researched this in depth so this is based on my experience. I believe every registrar provides a parking service - some give a 'site under contruction' page while others use it for advertising. It is possible to own a domain but not to park it with the registrar, so anyone searching would get a 'not found' message. The central regulating authority is ICANN. I believe registrars need to get some sort of licence before they can operate. The .org suffix was originally intended for non-commercial, non-government, sites, but there doesn't seem to be any control over how these suffices are used., so don't read anything into this.

I hope this has put you to sleep after your marathon meditation session.

John still struggling on a prehistoric laptop.







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Suuuure, they were....... It's ok, time for your nappy poo
Re: Look, these were bonafide websites before I linked 'em . . ... -- Dr.wow Top of thread Archive
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NAR ®

04/05/2006, 14:56:59
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LOL

Actually, I think we should register premies-r-nuts.com, gmj-is-a-fraud.com, look-who-is-next.com (this one for amar), I-fell-asleep-during-satsang-so-I-was-feeling-the-energy.com, etc, etc, etc.

By the time I hit the links you posted they were gone..... very funny, too






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I believe you Doctor...
Re: Look, these were bonafide websites before I linked 'em . . ... -- Dr.wow Top of thread Archive
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04/05/2006, 18:24:43
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I had seen them several times while surfing the net. 

"premie dot org" is still about though.






Modified by Cynthia at Wed, Apr 05, 2006, 18:25:59

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they are controlled by Rawat (with help from Jossi Fresco)
Re: I believe you Doctor... -- Cynthia Top of thread Archive
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G ®

04/05/2006, 22:29:44
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Those domain names are owned by PureVoice, LLC (as shown by a whois search), one of the companies that Rawat controls. PureVoice, LLC is involved with maharaji.net (see
Related Info for: maharaji.net) as well as some other stuff.

Some of Rawat's "poetry" (if you could call it that) is
copyrighted by PureVoice, LLC, e.g. something called
"Love is"

Purevoice LLC used to own wadahamar.net (I believe, based on web search results).

There is also a wahadamar.org, and guess who is involved?
None other than Mr. NPOV himself, Jossi Fresco. Oh yea.

Have a look (notice the admin id JF919-BR, the 'JF' shows
up in the admin id's for other Rawat related domain names):

Domain ID:D2409037-LROR
Domain Name:WAHADAMAR.ORG
Created On:12-Nov-1998 05:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:16-Oct-2004 00:06:52 UTC
Expiration Date:11-Nov-2007 05:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Bulk Register (R21-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:WI286-BR
Registrant Name:Wahadamar, Inc.
Registrant Organization:Wahadamar, Inc.
Registrant Street1:P.O. Box 1437
Registrant City:Thousand Oaks
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:91358
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8053711817
Registrant Email:jossi@TECHNOLOGIST.COM

Admin ID:JF919-BR

Admin Name:Jossi Fresco
Admin Organization:Jossi Fresco
Admin Street1:P. O. Box 4182
Admin City:Thousand Oaks
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:91359
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.8053711817
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin Email:jossi@TECHNOLOGIST.COM
Tech ID:ZH220-BR
Tech Name:Hostmaster
Tech Organization:9NETAVE
Tech Street1:110 Meadowlands Pkwy
Tech City:Secaucus
Tech State/Province:NJ
Tech Postal Code:07094
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.0000000000
Tech FAX:+1.0000000000
Tech Email:hostmaster@9NETAVE.COM
Name Server:NS2.NJD.XO.COM
Name Server:NS3.NJD.XO.COM

http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C1710708

Corporation
WAHADAMAR, INC.
Number: C1710708
Date Filed: 8/3/1992
Status: active
Jurisdiction: California
Address
100 E THOUSAND OAKS BLVD STE 235
THOUSAND OAKS, CA 91360
Agent for Service of Process
ALVARO PASCOTTO
1880 CENTURY PARK EAST STE 1111
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067

The following might not be of interest:

technologist.com:

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: technologist.com
Created on..............: 09 Mar 1996 00:00:00
Expires on..............: 10 Mar 2007 00:00:00
Registrant Info:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: abuse@mail.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854 US
Phone: 9086960929
Fax..: none
Email: abuse@mail.com_gerald.gorman@att.net
Administrative Info:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: abuse@mail.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854 US
Phone: 9086960929
Fax..: none
Email: abuse@mail.com_gerald.gorman@att.net
Technical Info:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: abuse@mail.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854 US
Phone: 9086960929
Fax..: none
Email: abuse@mail.com_gerald.gorman@att.net
Status: Locked

iname.com:

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: iname.com
Created on..............: 29 Dec 1995 00:00:00
Expires on..............: 28 Dec 2006 00:00:00
Registrant Info:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: abuse@mail.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854
US
Phone: 9086960929
Fax..: none
Email: abuse@mail.com_gerald.gorman@att.net
Administrative Info:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: abuse@mail.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854
US
Phone: 9086960929
Fax..: none
Email: abuse@mail.com_gerald.gorman@att.net
Technical Info:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: abuse@mail.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854
US
Phone: 9086960929
Fax..: none
Email: abuse@mail.com_gerald.gorman@att.net
Status: Locked
Domain servers in listed order:
udns1.ultradns.net
udns2.ultradns.net
Whois-Services: a51dc1ef-6286-4199-b209-88cbddf2eedd@whois-services.com







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also hansrawat.org
Re: they are controlled by Rawat (with help from Jossi Fresco) -- G Top of thread Archive
Posted by:
G ®

04/05/2006, 22:58:51
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hansrawat.org domain name is also owned by PureVoice, LLC.
It's still up (a bunch of links, looks similar to the others).
It has a link to the tprf.org






Modified by G at Wed, Apr 05, 2006, 23:00:08

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See also...
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04/06/2006, 03:49:22
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hansrawat.com
hansrawat.net
gurumaharaji.com
gurumaharaji.net
gurumaharaji.org

There's some weird shit amonst the 'Spirituality' ads carried on the gurumaharaji sites.

Will these sites now disappear too?











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sites disappeared as fast as Jossi can revert a wikipedia change
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G ®

04/06/2006, 07:32:31
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Hi Jossi, having fun?
Or should I call you Joseph?

Agoura Hills Real Estate

(notice Thousand Oaks and Westlake Village at the bottom, indicating a connection to Visions International, i.e. Elan Vital)

Domain ID:D33580938-LROR
Domain Name:GURUMAHARAJI.ORG
Created On:26-Aug-2000 15:43:01 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Aug-2005 20:04:59 UTC
Expiration Date:26-Aug-2006 15:43:01 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Bulk Register (R21-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:ZZ1465543-SL
Registrant Name:Joseph Fresco
Registrant Organization:PureVoice, LLC
Registrant Street1:P. O. Box 1485
Registrant City:Thousand Oaks
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:91358
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8053796777
Registrant Email:pureVoice@iname.com
Admin ID:JF543-BR
Admin Name:Registrant Services
Admin Organization:PureVoice, LLC
Admin Street1:P. O. Box 1485
Admin City:Thousand Oaks
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:91358
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+01.8053796777
Admin FAX:+013.107461541253
Admin Email:pureVoice@iname.com
Tech ID:JF543-BR
Tech Name:Registrant Services
Tech Organization:PureVoice, LLC
Tech Street1:P. O. Box 1485
Tech City:Thousand Oaks
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:91358
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+01.8053796777
Tech FAX:+013.107461541253
Tech Email:pureVoice@iname.com
Name Server:NS2.BULKREGISTER.COM
Name Server:NS.BULKREGISTER.COM







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Thanks, G...
Re: they are controlled by Rawat (with help from Jossi Fresco) -- G Top of thread Archive
Posted by:
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04/06/2006, 06:40:37
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Very, very interesting! 






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