Linda Gross says those posts weren't hers (and I believe her)
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Posted by: Jim ® 03/11/2006, 19:06:33 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin

Linda replied to my email -- nicely -- and reminded me that I asked her about those two posts when she and I were talking with one another a few years back, that she denied making them then and that I accepted her denial at the time.  That all seems kind of familiar to me.  My guess now is that someone read my letter to Rawat and just spoofed Linda.  It's as simple as that.

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That's good to hear. But what about Jagdeo? Re: Linda Gross says those posts weren't hers (and I believe her) -- Jim Top of thread Archive Posted by: T ® 03/12/2006, 02:58:01 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin Nice that Linda is being all friendly with you Jim.  Yeah the spoof letter did sound very 'iffy'. While you seem to be on such good terms with Linda at the moment perhaps you could ask her how the law suit against Jagdeo Upadhaya is getting along.   This was taken by DUO in India.  I know the Indian legal system is slow but I'm pretty sure that things must have been heard by now.  It's been what, 5 or so years now.  Perhaps we all missed a follow up announcement from Elan Vital Inc? T ____________ Statement from Elan Vital Inc dated 8th July 2001 (or maybe 7th August 2001?). DUO LAUNCHES CIVIL SUIT AGAINST MAN ACCUSED OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT     Divine United Organization (DUO), a society registered in India with similar goals and values to the US organization Elan Vital Inc. (EVI), has initiated civil action against a former instructor accused of inappropriate sexual behavior more than twenty-five years ago. The lawsuit, lodged in India’s Sub-Judge Court, in Patna, charges Jagdeo Upadhaya, a retired instructor of the former Divine Light Mission, with “inappropriate and tortuous behavior” and having breached his duty to the organization. EVI spokesperson, Linda Gross, said DUO and other Elan Vital organizations around the world would not tolerate such behavior. “If Upadhaya did this, then it is a terrible thing for the victims and a violation of our organization’s trust and decency - values for which we are respected worldwide," she said. When the first of the alleged victims came forward in 1999, EVI immediately began inquiries. At the time, Upadhaya was living in retirement at a DUO ashram in Mehrauli, India. When confronted with the allegations, he left the ashram and has not been seen since. The second alleged victim, claiming to have been abused by Upadhaya in 1976, contacted EVI in April 2001. “In the absence of any criminal or civil action filed by the alleged victims, DUO resolved that pursuing Upadhaya through a civil action was the proper course of action,” Ms Gross said. Ends Enclosed: background information For more information, please contact Elan Vital Inc: Tel: (818) 889 1193 ext. 145 Email: pr@elanvital.org">pr@elanvital.org Related link: Linda Gross' statement on behalf opf Elan Vital Previous Recommend Current page Next Re: That's good to hear. But what about Jagdeo? Re: That's good to hear. But what about Jagdeo? -- T Top of thread Archive Posted by: Jim ® 03/13/2006, 18:53:54 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin Hi T, Linda Gross advises me that she was only president of EV between 1993 and 2000 so I don't think there's much point asking her this.  By the way, she got back to me further regarding the "LindaG' posts suggesting that the post might have been made by Linda Grass who was a secretary for EV in Miami in '82.  I don't know what to think. Previous Recommend Current page Next Re: That's good to hear. But what about Jagdeo? (edited) Re: Re: That's good to hear. But what about Jagdeo? -- Jim Top of thread Archive Posted by: T ® 03/14/2006, 01:33:56 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin Hi Jim I'm pretty sure that that EVI announcement (concerning Jagdeo and the Patna court) was made by Linda Gross in July or August 2001, so how come she now says that she left in 2000.  Hmmm. But anyway, the announcement came from Elan Vital Inc and it is their responsibility to update the world on the progress of that court case made by the sister organisation DUO, since renamed to whatever.  Maybe Deepak Bhandari from India would like to come here and let us know the progress?  Certainly I think EVI should update their own announcment.  Clearly both the Indian org and EVI have a big interest in NOT updating anyone on this issue as I'm sure that they would much prefer this issue to slip silently away.  They must know that this issue will however be brought up again and again until some honest accounting has happened.  Only then they will be able to move along. As to Linda Grass, Does Linda Gross have any contact details for Linda Grass?  Or does anyone else know of her contact details?  If it was not Linda Grass that posted that stuff then I'm sure she would want to have the opportunity of saying so.  If it was, then equally I'm sure she now would want to have the opportunity of explaining want she actually meant. T [edited later] Thinking about this further (within the 2 hour edit window this forum allows) I think that Linda Gross still has a responsibility and duty to at least prompt Elan Vital Inc to issue an update on the Jagdeo matter even if she is no longer employed by Elan Vital Inc.  People who take a leading role within Elan Vital, and for a long time were their spokesperson, have at the very minimum a moral responsibility to speak about anything they know that happened within Elan Vital or their sister orgs.  It is simply not good enough to say that they have left the employ of Elan Vital.  And Linda Gross, even if she signed a NDA (non disclosure agreement), must know that such an agreement does not stand up legally if there is anything that needs to disclosed on whistle-blower terms.  Anyway Linda Gross probably was the one that instigated such a NDA practice within EVI and will know what weaknesses are inherent in such agreements. I'm glad that Linda Gross is now in correspondence with you Jim and on terms that appear to be friendly. I sincerely hope that she now has the courage to continue that conversation and lets you know what she knows.  Hell, maybe she will be able to convince you, and us, that nothing untoward actually happened with respect to the whole Jagdeo issue (particularly who knew what and when), and if that proves to be the case then this running sore can finally be put to rest. T  Modified by T at Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 03:38:39 Previous Recommend Current page Next Time limit for user editing or deletion Re: Re: That's good to hear. But what about Jagdeo? (edited) -- T Top of thread Archive Posted by: JHB-Admin ® 03/14/2006, 03:15:26 Author Profile Alert Forum Admin Thinking about this further (within the 2 hour edit window this forum allows)..... FYI, the user deletion/edit limit is 5 hours. Of course, if anyone wants to delete/correct their post after 5 hours, they can write to the admin address. John. Previous Recommend Current page Next