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Posted by:
ocker ®

04/14/2007, 20:22:58
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I posted the techniques of Knowledge from the LOTU documentary on Youtube a while back and Jonas reminded me of it in his post below. So I had a look at the comments posted by premies and couldn't restrain myself by making a few comments about the techniques, silly but fun.

Someone has posted video of young Rawat at Glastonbury 71 and what sounds like possibly a premie giving miracle coincidence satsang. Rawat talks of the perishability of material things (well he'd really know that now having had so many) and the imperishability of the Holy Word of God that is within you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SBBCy_4jII

Did Rawat really arrive while people were chanting Hare Krishna?






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04/15/2007, 16:16:05
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I do not think so because that is not the way Mick Brown described Rawat's performance at Glastonbury. Brown gives a rather detailed description of the event in his book "The Spiritual Tourist".

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Re: Glastonbury 1971 - Mick Brown -What was Rawat saying?
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Posted by:
ocker ®

04/20/2007, 21:49:31
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I must get a copy of the book as it seems this would be the same Mick Brown who wrote the article in Streetlife magazine at http://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/magazines/1976/streetlife76.htm

I have include the relevant parts of the longer video clip in http://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/glastonbury.html

It's hard to beleive that many people could have understood anything the young Godboy was saying. I still don't think I got the transcription correct and I could repeat it over and over.

"Every materialistic thing is perishable and after they have
perished how will you know the God? The imperishable thing, you should know such
a thing, that is imperishable, never will perish and that is the Holy Word, the
Holy Knowledge of God and that is within you. But if the true God is equal for
everyone like we say 'Bhagwan' in Hindi, 'God' in English, 'Allah' in Urdu, God
is the same thing, that is Knowledge of God is same. If the formula H20 is the
formula for water for everywhere that means that the flavour and the taste of
water will be the same everywhere. If the God is equal, if the God is one and
God is same then this Knowledge will be also equal and it cannot be attained by
going into different sects and religions. That is within you and if you want to
go you have only can with your bodies to the different sects and religions not
that Knowledge but to go anywhere you need some money, some pounds to go the
picture house you need some pounds for the picture of for anywhere you need some
pounds. My pounds are the love and the devotion pounds that can only be attained
by your bank. You have a bank in yourselves already, the money of love and
devotion.

Because I have got that Word, I have got that Knowledge, I
have got that thing and I can say you all that I can help mankind and everybody
of you by giving that Knowledge."





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Re: Glastonbury 1971 - Mick Brown -What was Rawat saying?
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04/22/2007, 02:48:52
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Brown,
Mick The Spiritual Tourist
Bloomsbury publishing ISBN
1-58234-034-X
Chapter Her Master's Voice
pp. 197-198


“[. .]the Maharishi went on
to build a world wide organisation, shrewdly
dispensing with the Eastern trappings and the references to 'Heavenly Bliss' in
favour of flow charts and statistics demonstrating
TM's benefits to health and business efficiency.

In his wake came the Guru Maharaj Ji, the
chubby faced teenaged 'boy god', who made a spectacular public debut in Britain
in 1971, when he arrived at the Glastonbury Festival in a white Rolls Royce
(hired for the day by his first English devotees).

'It was very odd,' remembers Michael Eavis, the dairy farmer who runs the Glastonbury Festival.
'Somebody said God had arrived and could we put him on stage, and my thought
was: Well, the festival's for everybody really, so why not? By the time he went
on stage everybody in the audience was completely stoned out of their minds,
and you could hear this ripple going around, "Wow! That's God!" Then
he started preaching against drugs, which I think everybody there found a bit
disconcerting.'

Maharaj
Ji was the youngest son and heir of Param Hans Yogiraj Shri, a spiritual teacher
who had built a large following in India, establishing several ashrams, the
largest at Hardwar, named Premnagar,
'the city of love'. Maharaj Ji promised instant bliss through a process that he
called 'the knowledge', which involved simple meditation and yogic techniques.
His Divine Light Mission Organisation quickly
flourished in
Britain. The
former Odeon,
East
Dulwich
, became 'The Palace of Peace', the
headquarters for a range of 'divine' businesses, including a haulage. business,
punningly called GM Motors. Maharaj Ji moved on to
America, on a
ticket paid for by the writer Alan Watts, establishing residences in
Denver and Los Angeles. In 1973 he rented
the Houston Astrodome, for 'Millennium '73', describing it as 'the most
significant and holy event in the history of mankind'. While a rock band played
on stage, the electronic scoreboard flashed 'G O D', 'Enjoy! Enjoy!' and 'Sugar
Is Sweet, So Are You, Guru Maharaj Ji'.

His most celebrated devotee was Rennie Davis, the former leader of the radical Students for
a Democratic Society (SDS). Davis had been a leading campaigner against the war
in Vietnam, and one of the 'Chicago 7', along with Abbie
Hoffman, Huey
Newton and Bobby Seale, who
stood trial in 1969, on charges arising out of disturbances at the Democratic
Convention. But he had grown disenchanted with radical politics.
Davis described the
arrival of Guru Maharaj Ji as, 'The greatest event in
history ... If we knew who he was we would crawl across
America on our
hands and knees to rest our heads at his feet.' The San Francisco Sunday
Examiner publicly wondered whether
Davis had undergone a
lobotomy: 'If not,' an article on the op ed page
declared, 'maybe he should try one.'


In 1974, Guru Maharaj Ji married his American secretary. The Divine Light
Mission began a steady decline, and the
Denver headquarters closed
in 1979. In 1992, in a deliberate attempt to distance itself from its Indian
origins, and its own history, the name of the organisation
was changed to Elan Vitale. Maharaj Ji continues to travel the world, lecturing
to private audiences, distributing his teachings on video and tape and politely
declining to talk to the media. Even the word 'meditation' is discouraged.

While Westernisation
had overtaken both the Maharishi Mahesh and Guru
Maharaj Ji they at least avoided the worst taint of scandal. The Indian guru
who most inspired ridicule and opprobrium, and tainted the whole idea of
Eastern teachers with disrepute, was the man popularly known as 'Bhagwan'.
Rajneesh Chandra Mohan came from no particular religious tradition, declaring
instead, 'I am the beginning of a totally new religious consciousness.' His
teachings bore the traces of an eclectic reading list: Lao Tzu, the Bible,
Buddhism, Plato, Freud and, not least, Gurdjieff.”







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Not the way I remember it
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hamzen ®

04/16/2007, 03:45:09
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I remember the intro when he came out to speak, it all seemed a bit weird, and I certainly don't remember any chanting at the time, but then I was just peaking on very strong acid.

All I can remember of his speech are two words, "war" and "peace". Trying to follow him on acid was not an easy "read".






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Posted by:
ocker ®

04/16/2007, 04:17:39
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Are you sure that wasn't 'war' and 'pounds' or 'God' and 'imperishability'? The movie makers probably put his arrival over the Hare Krishna chant for effect.






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04/16/2007, 05:09:24
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What?  Does this mean that Prem Rawat is not, after all, a reincarnation of Krishna?

Or is it the case that this is just one of the few labels put on him that Prem Rawat managed to throw off?

You gotta laugh at the sheer ridiculousness of it all.

T







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Re:meditate and find peace
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04/16/2007, 14:32:01
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04/18/2007, 17:19:49
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No need Billy Boy, I'm surrounded by peace, I'm alive in peace. Why should I stick my fingers in my eyes, my thumbs in my ears, concentrate on my breath and poke my tongue up my nose for an hour for something I already am?






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The Falcon ®

04/19/2007, 01:20:37
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sanctimonious, pseudo-spiritual tw*t!

Who do you think you are? Because you do not know, that's for sure!







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billyQ..another hit and run merchant, like his master nt
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04/19/2007, 02:43:04
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