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'cos if it is, nothing has definitely changed and that message definitely has not.
That's a way of putting things sometimes isn't it
Maharaji lets you feel the peace within. It's a funny way of seeing it. Ominous really, like when people pray.. "Please let that horse win.." Letting is something someone does who has absolute power over everything. That's still how he sees himself: letting people feel peace within inside.
... thanks for letting us have the forum and each other, when it all went pear shaped? Or wasn't that in the plan?
Let me know
Modified by Saph at Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 18:57:09
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LP, The link I sent was to the archive...its the most recent issue 113. Here is the whole thing for your delectation. Choices of words are revealing sometimes aren't they? best Tim Beyond Success Each one of us judges our day, our year, and indeed, our lives by what has been accomplished. "Was it a good day?" People will say, "I accomplished this, I went there. I did this, I did that, and, yes, it was a good day." Or, "No, I had problems. My tire went flat, my car broke down, this problem happened, that problem happened. So, no, it was not a good day." What is really important? Is it really the breaking down of the car that can destroy a day? I agree that it is inconvenient. Things happen in people's lives and they say, "I am ruined! I am destroyed!" I want to point out that there's something happening in your life that is more important than the sum of all your accomplishments and your mistakes put together. What is it? It is so simple. It is the coming and the going of each breath. This is the greatest miracle that you will ever witness. No miracle in your life will ever be greater than the coming and going of each breath. In times of trouble, it doesn't leave you. And it is one thing that never judges. Each breath brings the possibility of being fulfilled. Each breath brings the possibility of being in peace. I know that everyone has an idea of what peace is. When people hear the word peace, they think of world peace, no more wars. Take a look at it from a different angle and you will see real peace. Peace is something that manifests inside of human beings. I will tell you what I am talking about. I received emails from people in Lebanon and Israel who have experienced peace within. And what do you think these emails said? "Thank you. Thank you for what you have shown us in our lives." They were being bombed, but even in the middle of the war, there is a gratitude for the peace they feel inside of themselves. You see, what I talk about is not just words. I have nothing new to say. Everything I say, you know. Your heart, your being, your self, has been saying this to you again and again and again and again: "Be in peace. Be content." To be content. To be in peace. To understand. To enjoy this life. Look at this journey not by failures, not by successes—but as the most precious gift. That's what it is: the most precious gift that could possibly be given to a human being. And here, you have it. It is the sum of all desires fulfilled. It is everything that you have always wanted. And it is everything that you will ever want. This one place within you is where there are no doubts and no questions, where there is clarity and understanding, where there's a celebration of life going on and you are welcomed. You are welcome to take part in the celebration of existence. You are the only one who can go there. No one else. Only you can go there. It’s made for you. Each one of us can experience that peace in our lives—not in words, not in concepts, not in ideas, but in reality—every single day. The peace that I'm talking about is the peace that people experience in the middle of rocket-falls. This is not about religion. Follow whatever religion you want. This is about finding the place within inside of you that still remains untapped. I'm not here to offer formulas to you. I can put you in touch with the peace that is within you. As impossible as it may sound, it's happening right now. Somewhere in the world, somebody is being put in touch with that beauty that is inside of them. And it is no surprise that when a person feels the beauty within, the next words they say are, "Thank you. Thank you for letting me feel the peace inside of me." Maharaji
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"Thank you for letting me feel the peace inside of me."So, it's all due to rawat, 'feeling that peace'? "By his grace", maybe? He "lets" people feel peace? What an asshole.
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The peace that I'm talking about is the peace that people experience in the middle of rocket-falls. He claims that people in Israel and Lebanon thank him for the peace in their lives, hmm.. I didn't hear about that. Right now people are in great fear of the rockets, families left the bombed city (south of Israel), a man was killed because he missed going to the shelter for a split of a secone. maraji rubbish is so annoying, from promising to bring peace to the world he moved to this utter absurdity of peace under rockets. Peace is Peace, when there is peace there are no rockets and people can sit under their tree peacefully, realy peace, unlike what this joker promises - lies, lies and lies. I experienced missiles in the first golf-war in 2000, it's scarry, but more scarry are those false promises of this man. A breath is a breath, not all this autistic crap about the "place inside of you".
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I offer him to come and speak about his peace in the bombed city of Sderot, let's see how he copes with that (away from his safe maliboo mansion). And then to imagine the people's reaction to his message... this will be another threat to his life. but m doesn't take chances, he speaks about peace under rockets - far far away from the rockets.
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Hi Snow-WhiteYes, from what I can see, very few spiritual, religious or peace-talking people actually walk their talk. They give great advice about how to love and be peaceful, but usually far removed from those scary or painful situations that you describe where love and peace are *really* needed. There are of course exceptions, some love- and peace-merchants are surely genuine and effective, but it is clear that Maharaji is not among them. Take care -- Mike
www.MikeFinch.com
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to spread the hope.
I'd like to see him justifying his plane ride into the Maldives as they go under water too.
What a total hypocrite.
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I agree that one can be calm even in a very tough situation, but the inner resources are other then rawat's teachings, because they don't work and because he is a lier. Thanks Mike
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Dear Prem Rawat, I have discovered that there is great beauty in the world, and a great appreciation of beauty within me. My whole life has been a learning process. One thing I have learned is that when a person feels the beauty within, it is imperative to thank the proper source. You, Sir, are not the source, nor are any of the other "masters" and "speakers" just like you who try to take too much credit. I, for one, would be most appreciative to you if you would clarify your message and stop teaching that you as a master are a necessary component of a person's inner peace. I would be most grateful to you if you would stop teaching that inner peace is dependent on practicing the four techniques of your so-called Knowledge. If you would speak that truth, from your heart, I would be grateful to you, from one human being to another. For that I would say "thank you." But I will never say thank you to you for the pretense of you being responsible in any way for my own feeling of inner peace. Never! And furthermore, I believe that every person who expresses gratitude to you in that way is very much mistaken. If you wish to be an inspirational speaker and to help out worthy causes in the world, you are most welcomed to do so and you may honorably have many people's appreciation and gratitude for that. But that is the limit of honor. Please learn how to limit yourself as a human being and renounce all the excesses of guruism. Yes, there is a quiet space inside that feels so peaceful. We can learn to live each day in appreciation of our life. It is a good thing to tap into the higher aspects of our own hearts and minds. Yes, that is all true and we can all do this, if we wish. Meditation, using well-known methods, is helpful for many people to feel more deeply the beautiful feeling of the heart that we all have. I, myself, enjoy and honor "this feeling," and I honor other people who do so. I enjoyed meditation and my own inner peace long before I received Knowledge, and when I practiced Knowledge, I also felt the same peace, and when I moved on from practicing Knowledge, I continued to feel the same peace. It is mine, and you have no claim on it. You have no claim on anyone's experience, only your own. Instead of saying that your students rightly say to you: "thank you for letting me feel the peace inside of me," you should know that your students should only say: "thank you for encouraging me to find the inner peace." There is a difference, Sir. Do you understand that difference? Instead of claiming, as you do, that: "I can put you in touch with the peace that is within you," you should only claim that: "I can speak from my own peace and encourage you to find your own." There is a difference, Sir. A big difference. Do you understand the difference? If there ever comes a day when you cleanse yourself of all guruism, and all false claims, and truly set your students free of all wrongly-directed devotion, then I will be most appreciative. Thank you.
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Well said Will.... very clear and heartfelt. Somehow I can`t imagine it getting through to him though. Surprise me Mr Rawat. Suprise us all why not?
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Modified by turey at Wed, Nov 22, 2006, 13:53:42
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