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Prem Rawat or Guru Maharaj Ji tells us about his beauty.
Modified by Hilltop at Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 01:28:37
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Prem Rawat... "Guru Maharaj Ji doesn't give or take" (true he doesn't give but it's a lie that he doesn't take) Prem Rawat... "Guru Maharaj Ji merges".
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No wonder our experiences were disappointing, to say the least.
Good to see your posts again Hilltop
Modified by Saph at Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 02:50:55
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Nothwithstanding the fact that reading that I'm to "merge" with Rawat's "experience" makes me want to vomit.
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Hi Joe and Saph, And a kind cyber hug goes to Susan, Cynthia, and Axis. Sorry, but here's more from the same Prem Rawat talk. At least I left the pictures out of this attachment. I should hold the puke bucket for everyone here. Why do you think I try to post some humor from time to time? Not that I'm complaining or anything. My Best Thoughts Go To Everyone! Seriously Yours, Hilltop
Modified by Hilltop at Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 01:52:25
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"Only by gm.'s grace can we really understand who we are...
we can go beyond the barriers of right or wrong..
if there is a definition to sin... it definitely applies to leaving that love of gm.
to put a limit to it would be another sin....
who are we before gm..... that being that gives us the feeling of understanding
There is no possibility,...no probability, ... no question.. there is nothing you can do about it....
Because who are we? Before that we were nothing ...after that we were nothing.
keep doing satsang, service and meditation. And just flow with the experience."
Right: I'm ready for that puke bucket now.
Modified by Saph at Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 12:49:06
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Hi Saph, Good eye there my friend with what you posted. Esp. where you underlined feeling..."that being that gives us the FEELING of understanding" and the Prem Rawat sin talk is really sick too. Anyhow, I'd hold the puke bucket for you anytime as long as you have good aim. I say that because I like you Saph / LP. Hilltop
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Thanks Hilltop, I like you too, but I wouldn't dream of letting you hold my puke bucket. Just leave it on the floor there and stand clear.
Actually I hate throwing up (who doesn't). The last two times, recently, I woke up in the night, feeling that that was going to happen, I sipped a half a glass of water and the feeling went away. Sometimes though, we have no choice.
"that being that gives us the FEELING of understanding"
I love it when Maharaji lets out these subliminal (Freudian) slips and says more truth than he meant to say.
Maybe you know of some more like that. I'm a bit like my dog, I like a good bone to chew on.
warmest regards
Little Puppy
Modified by Saph at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 02:05:30
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Hi Saph, Thanks, but do I have to clean up the mess now that you missed the bucket on the floor? Just kidding ofcourse. You said... "I sipped a half a glass of water and the FEELING went away. So we really are talking about thirst here. That half a glass of water in order to not puke sounds more like poison to me. I think I'd rather puke first and then have a choice before I drink any more of that water. If we are talking about Prem Rawat. I think there are a few quotes by Prem Rawat where he might have told the truth once or twice by accident.This attachment may be one of those times. At least the first part of it seems to he honest, the second part has more to do with his usual cultic mind abuse. I'll post some bones for you to chew on soon, but there are so many that it makes it hard to pick out the biggest or best ones. Best Thoughts LP... Hilltop .
Modified by Hilltop at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 02:21:10
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Ah Hilltop,
I led you accidentally off on a tangent here I fear. I was not eluding to Prem Rawat. It was just plain spring water from my tap. (faucet)
I was just talking about diluting the stomach acids, which no doubt were reacting to unwise food combination, no metaphor or symbolism, I was just reminded of an experience.
I admittedly did connect the words feeling and FEELING by underlining but that was not what I was implying, and I'm not sure why I did that now.
More like Maharaji's FEELING of understanding is akin to the feeling of wanting to puke.
Guess I didn't think it through. No, definitely no connection between clean fresh water and the poisonous Rawat, and none intended.
Sorry for any confusion I caused, switching from metaphor one minute, to recounting an actual but unrelated experience the next.
I'll check out the attachment now.
Sincerely Lp
Modified by Saph at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 02:44:42
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Hi LP, I understood what you were saying. But when there was an invitation to another meaning there in your post, I had to give it a shot. That's just the creative idiot in me. I hope you don't mind that I did that. You didn't cause any confusion. I did. I just went the other way with it. Forgive me and I hope your stomach is feeling better. Hilltop
Modified by Hilltop at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 02:52:56
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No problem,
and only seconds ago the subtly of your post struck me.
It's only fair, while I am inspecting his words, for hidden freudian slips, mine should be also. I see the joke in it now, finally. Nice one. 
Wow, I hope there's no subliminal meaning in what I said, I wonder what a shrink would make of it.
Out, out damned spot (influence on my life.)
Thanks again, Hilltop 
Modified by Saph at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 03:29:52
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Thanks Hilltop,
So he was talking about believing then, after all.
As he speaks about removing this problem from the world he appears to me to be pointing to himself and Shri Hans's picture.
And clearly it was their aim to control our minds.
And mind had become our enemy only since the time we fell under the spell of his abusive meddling.
All the best my friend,
Lp
Modified by Saph at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 06:50:16
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Hi Saph, Why are you questioning me about what the Prem Rawat said? I know it is almost Halloween but what you are saying in your post sounds scary to me. What the heck is this may I ask? And mind had BECOME our enemy only since the time we fell under the spell of his abusive medding? I guess it is time for me to go to bed. I may have to hold my own puke bucket after this. Trick or Treat! Best Thoughts... Hilltop
Modified by Hilltop at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 03:13:52
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Are you still joking with me? I hope so.
I meant mind was not our enemy until he told us to see it that way. (their meddling meaning Shri Hans's and Maharaji's)
Of course it is not, and never was.
Goodnight. Sleep well.
Lp
Modified by Saph at Sun, Oct 29, 2006, 03:45:53
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Hi Saph, I got some sleep and I just reread a few of my posts to you. I shouldn't of posted them because I was trying to be funny but dropped the ball. What was I thinking? Everything is fine and in the future I will make sure I'm wide awake before I post and not half a sleep. Thanks for responding with me. Your friend, Hilltop
Modified by Hilltop at Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 08:23:44
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No problem Hilltop,
Though I must admit, I changed colour, for a moment.
How human we are
Best wishes
your friend Lp
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Hi Saph, Thank You for that. However, I did say that I would post a bone for you to pick on. What do you think about this one? You don't have to reply because you deserve much better. I think it speaks for itself really. It's no wonder I get confused posting this stuff. Best Thoughts! Thanks Saph, LP and Brian ~ I like all three of you. Hilltop
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I'll tell those other two lazy ol' freaks, S. 'n' B., I know what they'll say. They like your posts, as much as I do, your humour lightens up the forum and is much appreciated. Keep on archiving,
on behalf of those two miscreants and from all of us,
Leopold, the third. who is singularly challenged, and must go and hide this bone before the other lazy freaks find it,
otherwise I might as well forget it.
P.S. (I think they're off visiting an old sea dog who is dying, painting his house, planting some apple trees and debarnacling his fishing boat today.)
Modified by Saph at Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 07:21:41
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One of the most below the belt things a premie said when I told him I was finished with M. and k. was, "What would you do if you heard there was going to be a nuclear attack and there was only 5 minutes left".
I was still only incompletely "exed" not having had access to the more deep work that the forum provides, I rocked on my heels for a second, realising, as I remember Ocker once saying "I hope I don't think of Maharaji in my last moments or try to do the techniques."
Anyway the obvious answer is (five minutes is up) I would just vaporise along with all the rest.
Lp
Modified by Saph at Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 09:30:35
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Rawat should speak for himself. I never found Maharaji "beautiful." I more tolerated his tacky and abusive existence because I thought I was supposed to. I also did not "love" darshan, and actually dreaded the degrading experience that it was as time went on. Of course, my inability to see what Rawat said I was supposed to was all chocked up to the "evil mind" the devil that Rawat said was living inside my head that he was supposedly saving me from. What a de-humanizing waste the Rawat ideology is.
Modified by Joe at Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:35:30
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These outfits crack me up. Who can take this guy seriously? And where did he get this stuff? Is there a shop somewhere called "Gods and Gurus"? "Greater than GodMart"? Maybe there is a "Darshan Department" at Macy's that I missed. Do the gods and gurus guys have a swap and shop somewhere? Could save some bucks, I'd think. Do they send their wives? Can you imagine going from store to store with a sketch? Telling the sales people, well, I'm looking for this...he's got to be the Lord of the Universe by the weekend? If they didn't send you to the loony bin, they'd sure lock the doors next time they saw you coming. How is the stuff sized? Cherubim is small? Seraphim would be somewhat bigger. What the hell size would the goo-roo-maw-haw-raw-gee wear? "Lord of the Universe, portly, short"?
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"Greater than GodMart" Cherubim is small? Seraphim would be somewhat bigger. LOL! How about "The Gap for God?"
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Oooh, "Gap for God"...I love it!
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How about "Old Naval (Gazer" . Kabir
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Hi Premie Spouse and Cynthia, That's funny! Here's one for Prem Rawat's followers... "Chumps R Us" Or what if Prem Rawat owned Google it might be called "Gaggle". And Youtube would become "IOYoutube". If Prem Rawat owned McDonalds the slogan might change from... Have it Your Way to "Have it My Way" and what about the how many served sign? Best Thoughts, Hilltop
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That was getting to be about the time I was soon to head out the ashram door....interesting satsang about the kids...Wadi likes pink...Hansi likes trucks...I remember that being about the most interesting thing he could do in satsang was go on a kid rant...the only time I didn't have to force myself to listen.
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I'm sure that picture was chosen solely (no pun intended) for the bare feet. Remember, that was the ultimate in sexiness, those bare lotus feet? Meant to make the gopis swoon. Not even the bare mala-clad chest could do it like those lotus feet.Were we sick or what? Foot fetishists, all.
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Hi Joy, I remember the bare-foot fetish well. You're right. The bare-chested mala was no match for the gopi swoon over the bare feet. He used to come into the DECA design rooom a lot in sandals. It was difficult for some of us to get back to work after that. It was sick. Very sick.
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If you Ladies calm down. I might post another picture of Prem Rawat's feet. But let's go for some old foreplay pictures first OK? Hilltop
Modified by Hilltop at Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 01:35:23
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I'm sorry,
but even as a guy, not in any sexual way of course, but he was kind of impressive with that hat on. At that age I mean, and the lighting, and the good camera angle .... and the music, and the lovely satsang that premie sister gave me on the way in.. and that toke in the car ... it was an easy mistake to make .... wasn't it? .... wasn't it? I'm Sorry self.
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it made him look a lot taller. Maybe he thought that would help him get women. Of course, he would have had to take it off in bed...where would you hang a hat like that? Did he carry a hat stand with him, too? It would take a helluva funky hatbox to keep that in.
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I once remember catching a glimpse of a huge hat box for his crown.
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Oh, lordy, lordy, I thought I was making a joke. You're serious. Now my mind is going wild imagining the rest of his luggage to haul those get-ups around. Did he stop wearing that crap about the same time he stopped having so many premie slaves? Maybe he had to quit wearing it...who else would carry nonsense like that?
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Yeah that's right, I didn't stick around long enough to see who carried it. Maybe a special hat box carrying type guy or a mule. I think there have been several, there's a guy somewhere in Chandhi Chowk who churns 'em out. Somewhere in India there's thousands of crowns like that being worn, most of them, probably, are on krishna statues, no doubt you get the odd dandy who tries one on from time to time.
But it's a long step from prancing around with a flute and crown in front of the mirror, standing cross legged, when no-one's looking, to:- blatantly standing there for all the world to see, with a smug grin.
What a nerve?
And then talking bollocks and getting away with it? That takes special training.
Lp
Modified by Saph at Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 15:05:16
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Around 1980, the DECA project designed, at Rawat's request, this box for carrying around the Krishna crown. It was designed in the DECA design dept. to respond to the lord's ever need and desire. The little drawer at the top of the box is the Krishna flute. No, I'm not making this up. The Krishna Crown carrying case (this is NOT an altered photo): 
Related link: EPO - Krishna Crown
Modified by Cynthia at Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 05:35:26
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That's a cabinet! and it's tall enough so as not to bend the divine feathers, I wonder if he ever took it through customs:
"Any thing to declare, sir?"
"Not really, just this."
I would like to see the expression on the customs officer's face.
"Nothing strange there then."
"You wouldn't be Krishna by any chance, would you sir?... just wondered."
And now he's just your average travelling businessman. I wonder what was their first clue that the LOTU thing was getting a bit weird?
Modified by Saph at Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 11:13:51
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""Any thing to declare, sir?"
"Not really, just this."
I would like to see the expression on the customs officer's face.
"Nothing strange there then."
"You wouldn't be Krishna by any chance, would you sir?... just wondered.""Fortunately, I've learned not to read a post with my mouth full of coffee! Thanks, Saph. I loved the cartoon my mind made of this...wish I coud draw!
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Hi Saph, Now that was really funny. I'm still laughing about it. Thanks for the humor!
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Wow. It's not too often I find myself speechless. Wow. Now I'm trying to figure out, not just the workings of the mind that could wear that crap on a stage in front of live humans and dance around and have people kiss his feet, but the mind of a person who would require his slaves to design and build a case for it. So it could be hauled around. And a drawer for the flute....too precious! I've been told since I was first an aspirant, that all the stuff I couldn't accept, didn't like, and thought was completely goofy was just "the westerners misunderstanding". Like, "That was all just misunderstanding, Maharaji never said (insert 'did' as needed) that" My initial reaction on looking at the krishna crap was, "What the hell is to misunderstand?" Looks pretty obvious to me, he wants to be adored. If rawat was demanding the designing and building of special luggage to hold his "greater-than-god" trick or treat costume, it seems pretty intentional to me. Nothing misunderstood there. What a liar. Anybody know where the krishna rig is....I have a friend who would love to have it for Hallowe'en. (You know, that thing looks like a dirty laundry hamper with the doors closed.)
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Good one Cynthia! I'll have to add that to my collection of photos. Too bad Prem Rawat doesn't wear his crown and outfit nowadays esp. when he accepts his awards for peace. Can you imagine? Hilltop
Modified by Hilltop at Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 09:59:52
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"Imagine him wearing it to receive his awards"
Still laughing!
Modified by Saph at Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 11:07:35
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Hello Cynthia.. Occasionally a picture really is worth a thousand words and this one somehow nails it more than any other that I have seen. The box truly does contain a 'truth ithat is beyond words'. thanks for finding this one Tim
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Prem Rawat with that hat (from the box) on his head.
Modified by Hilltop at Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 23:42:10
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