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Axis ®

10/14/2006, 14:45:07
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This is an invitation to talk about words, how Maharaji misused them and how it affected our lives, in the past and also in our present.

Looking for something else, I got to a link from the Webster Dictionary and seeing the word GRACE I clicked it and reading it inspired me to start a thread. 

Maybe can be benefitial and useful for some ex-premies and premies reading these forum, to understand what was inculcated in out minds by the ignorant, uneducated "spiritual teacher" and how it wounded our spirits.

He COULD have quit when he was ahead, but he couldn't.

It takes for a GREAT person to recognize he/she has being wrong and sadly, he is not great by any means.  If kindness begins at home, surely, he is not being kind to himself.  I have to recognise that it saddens me somewhat to see the end results of his "gigs".  The photos posted here shocked me.

 

grace

1. The exercise of love, kindness, mercy, favor; disposition to benefit or serve another; favor bestowed or privilege conferred. "To bow and sue for grace With suppliant knee." (Milton)

2. The divine favor toward man; the mercy of God, as distinguished from His justice; also, any benefits His mercy imparts; divine love or pardon; a state of acceptance with God; enjoyment of the divine favor. "And if by grace, then is it no more of works." (Rom. Xi. 6) "My grace is sufficicnt for thee." (2 Cor. Xii. 9) "Where sin abounded, grace did much more abound." (Rom. V. 20) "By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand." (Rom. V.2)

3. The prerogative of mercy execised by the executive, as pardon. The same prerogative when exercised in the form of equitable relief through chancery.

4. Fortune; luck; used commonly with hard or sorry when it means misfortune.

5. Inherent excellence; any endowment or characteristic fitted to win favor or confer pleasure or benefit. "He is complete in feature and in mind. With all good grace to grace a gentleman." (Shak) "I have formerly given the general character of Mr. Addison's style and manner as natural and unaffected, easy and polite, and full of those graces which a flowery imagination diffuses over writing." (Blair)

6. Beauty, physical, intellectual, or moral; loveliness; commonly, easy elegance of manners; perfection of form. "Grace in women gains the affections sooner, and secures them longer, than any thing else." (Hazlitt) "I shall answer and thank you again For the gift and the grace of the gift." (Longfellow)

7. Graceful and beautiful females, sister goddesses, represented by ancient writers as the attendants sometimes of Apollo but oftener of Venus. They were commonly mentioned as three in number; namely, Aglaia, Euphrosyne, and Thalia, and were regarded as the inspirers of the qualities which give attractiveness to wisdom, love, and social intercourse. "The Graces love to weave the rose." (Moore) "The Loves delighted, and the Graces played." (Prior)

8. The title of a duke, a duchess, or an archbishop, and formerly of the king of England. "How fares your Grace !" (Shak)

9. Thanks. "Yielding graces and thankings to their lord Melibeus." (Chaucer)

10. A petition for grace; a blessing asked, or thanks rendered, before or after a meal.

11. Ornamental notes or short passages, either introduced by the performer, or indicated by the composer, in which case the notation signs are called grace notes, appeggiaturas, turns, etc.

12. <engineering> An act, vote, or decree of the government of the institution; a degree or privilege conferred by such vote or decree.

13. A play designed to promote or display grace of motion. It consists in throwing a small hoop from one player to another, by means of two sticks in the hands of each. Called also grace hoop or hoops. Act of grace. See Act. Day of grace, the time of probation, when the offer of divine forgiveness is made and may be accepted. "That day of grace fleets fast away." (I. Watts) Days of grace, the days immediately following the day when a bill or note becomes due, which days are allowed to the debtor or payer to make payment in. In Great Britain and the United States, the days of grace are three, but in some countries more, the usages of merchants being different. Good graces, favor; friendship. Grace cup. A cup or vessel in which a health is drunk after grace. A health drunk after grace has been said. "The grace cup follows to his sovereign's health." (Hing) Grace drink, a drink taken on rising from the table; a grace cup. "To [Queen Margaret, of Scotland] . . . We owe the custom of the grace drink, she having established it as a rule at her table, that whosoever staid till grace was said was rewarded with a bumper." (Encyc. Brit) Grace hoop, a hoop used in playing graces. See Grace. Grace note, an appoggiatura. See Appoggiatura, and def. 11 above. Grace stroke, a finishing stoke or touch; a coup de grace. Means of grace, means of securing knowledge of God, or favor with God, as the preaching of the gospel, etc. To do grace, to reflect credit upon. "Content to do the profession some grace." (Shak) To say grace, to render thanks before or after a meal. With a good grace, in a fit and proper manner grace fully; graciously. With a bad grace, in a forced, reluctant, or perfunctory manner; ungraciously. "What might have been done with a good grace would at least be done with a bad grace." (Macaulay)

Synonym: Elegance, comeliness, charm, favor, kindness, mercy.

Grace, Mercy. These words, though often interchanged, have each a distinctive and peculiar meaning. Grace, in the strict sense of the term, is spontaneous favor to the guilty or undeserving; mercy is kindness or compassion to the suffering or condemned. It was the grace of God that opened a way for the exercise of mercy toward men. See Elegance.

Origin: F. Grace, L. Gratia, from gratus beloved, dear, agreeable; perh. Akin to Gr. To rejoice, favor, grace, Skr. Hary to desire, and E. Yearn. Cf. Grateful, Gratis.

Source: Websters Dictionary

(01 Mar 1998)






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sad to ruin a word like grace..
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Susan ®

10/14/2006, 15:17:43
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but really, I can't deal with that word at all. I am not big on master either

other loaded language from our cult- event, program, concept, mind...a few words that to this day I avoid using synonyms because they carry cult baggage...

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1. Need to internalize the group's doctrine as "Truth"

a. Map = Reality
b. Black and White thinking
c. Good vs. evil
d. Us vs. them (inside vs. outside)

2. Adopt "loaded" language (characterized by "thought-terminating clichés". Words are the tools we use to think with. These "special" words constrict rather than expand understanding. They function to reduce complexities of experience into trite, platitudinous "buzz words".

3. Only "good" and "proper" thoughts are encouraged.

4. Thought-stopping techniques (to shut down "reality testing" by stopping "negative" thoughts and allowing only "good" thoughts); rejection of rational analysis, critical thinking, constructive criticism.

a. Denial, rationalization, justification, wishful thinking
b. Chanting
c. Meditating
d. Praying
e. Speaking in "tongues"
f. Singing or humming

5. No critical questions about leader, doctrine, or policy seen as legitimate

6. No alternative belief systems viewed as legitimate, good, or usefulere is a quote from Steve Hassan's site







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GOOD POST--I'll try to ponder this a while / reply concluded
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10/16/2006, 09:23:10
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meaning of ego
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10/15/2006, 08:10:14
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The 'I' or self-that which is conscious and thinks. (Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary 1972 Edition)

Dont surrender it, you never know, it  might come in handy.







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You got that one
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Axis ®

10/16/2006, 07:57:39
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Dont surrender it, you never know, it  might come in handy.

We human have a Superior Ego and a "lower one.  Two EGOS, both benefitial to the process of learning what we really are, etc.  For having being a student of Rawat for more than 2 decades, I can say with extreme certainty that what he teaches confuses the person accepting his crappy teachings.

I wish those from the old days, those premies from the 70's who are still in the negative cult could think more clearly to see why we left him behind. 

Many of those premies are looking at these pages because they, and they have to ask why they do it, deep inside they have doubts and doubts are VERY good at times.

He teaches to "never doubt the master" (said by him)

Those premies who were once aspiring to know the mysteries of the universe with a sincere heart were dupped my the liar:

Main Entry:  liar
Part of Speech:  noun
Definition:  falsifier
Synonyms:  cheat, con artist, con man, deceiver, deluder, dissimulator, equivocator, fabler, fabricator, fabulist, false witness, falsifier, fibber, jive turkey, maligner, misleader, perjurer, phony, prevaricator, promoter, storyteller, trickster*

I know very, very well what I am talking about because I tried for the longest time to sincerely "learn" from him, and all I ended up with was his confusion.  I was deeply sick without knowing it due to his inaccurate way of teaching. All I had were little moments of bliss here and there.  My most fundamental humans needs were changed by his negative teaching.  I see now how negative it was to have blind faith, DEVOTION, total surrendering of my free will while I was a premie.

I didn't kill the EGO, Thanks God, as he suggested I should have done, but I merged them.  My Superior Ego with my Inferior Ego.

From my Wisdom: Do not believe the liar. Think!!  Dont surrender it, you never know, it  might come in handy. I agree.

Best wishes to you.

~Axis~ free as a bird soaring in Truth.

PS: Many premies killed themselves.  They die confused, and for doing so created so much suffering to their families.  Sad isn't?






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Knowledge and suicide.
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10/17/2006, 02:32:46
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I don't know enough about suicide to say much about it, but it is very sad. Mr Rawat claims to know what to do when you die, his advice is to 'think of him.' Its not enough for Mr Rawat to put the knife in, he can't resist giving it a twist.






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short, sweet..wikid D!
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