It seems to me that the ex-prems probably have a lot more in common than just having followed the same guru. One thing I was curious about when I started browsing around here is how people have moved on. Sure, there is naturally some anger, resentment and so on, but for me the biggest thing has been - so what to believe in now? Having been so wrong, how can I trust my own judgement, not to make just as bad a mistake again?

I remember watching a documentary a long time ago, about how susceptible people were to authority. An experiment was set up where people were asked to throw a switch that electrocuted someone sitting in a chair in a lab. The guy in the chair was an actor, but the people invited to the experiment didn't know that. A few people refused to do it. Most just hesitated, but were persuaded to get on with it 'in the interests of science'. Some people really really enjoyed it.

I remember being a bit smug, and assuming that I would have been one of those to refuse to do it. I wouldn't be so gullible... but I was an M-fearing premie at the time! Sorry, but I am likely to be one of those pulling the switch! My gullibility is well-proved. My judgement is unreliable.

I find it disconcerting that some people here just seem to think that the fakery is all M, and maybe a few other gurus like him. I think the problem is much bigger than that.

I like it when the subject of these threads diverge. I get to read between the lines, and figure out where people stand now. That's important to me. I am happy for threads to spin off into politics, music, philosphy, whatever.

I have heard enough about Rawat really. I need no further persuasion of his fraudulence, and I think there may be enough evidence spread here, EPO, and other sites for exiting people to plough through - how much evidence do people need?