So it's all just a question of interpretation is it?  No sorry mate. Surrender means surrender. Look it up in your Oxford dictionary. (We use Webster's here in America and I'm sure the definitions are pretty close.)

Could I ask you a few questions jonx. Please bear with me. I just want to understand your way of thinking and make some sense out of all of this.

Did you ever see Maharaji dressed up in a Krishna costume either in person or in a photograph? Did you ever see that? Do you know who Krishna is? If not Google it. And did you ever see anyone else dressed up as Krishna at a program?

And jonx do you ever really listen to what Maharaji says? I mean really listen to what he says? I mean do you think that Hilltop is making up all that stuff he posts?

And what do you make of all the quotes from Maharaji posted on Gallery 8? I've taken the liberty of putting the link below so you can go there and look them over.

Sorry about all the questions jonx but I need your help with this.