Re: Really, Bear? What parts aren't phony?
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05/14/2005, 17:07:53
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Hi Jim, The parts of maharajis message that I related to are ones that I had already in my view of life. *This life is not a joke *What you are looking for is already here *Let go *Peace begins with every individual Hi again, Bear,

Each one of those ideas or slogans to me are either too trite to earn any credit at all to Rawat for saying them or just plain wrong.  Honestly, I'm a bit baffled that you might think otherwise.  Even if you buy into the vague spiritual flotsam and jetsom he traffics in and actually think there's some merit in the idea that we're "looking for something" to begin with or that "letting go" means anything at all -- neither of which mean anything at all to me any longer -- how can Rawat get any credit at all for regurgitating such simplistic cliches?  If Rawat had to talk without resorting to such rehashed inanities could he say anything at all?  Good question.

  I look at the whole thing of "self-realization" as being valid but not in the context of maharji but in a larger view. I "realize things about my self every day.

With all due respect, Bear, I think it's a big mistake to blur the concept of self-realization like that.  Of course you realize things about yourself every day.  That's not what the word means.  It means awakening to one's higher self.  In my opinion, it's bullshit.

I stayed with maharaji for so many years for so many reasons. Some I dont want to talk about here. For discussions sake lets just say I was lit. I was deeply in love with maharaji and if you have ever tried to talk to a person in love you know how futile to try and get them to reason. I see now this was not a healhty love. In some ways I didnt even care about the message,I was happy to be in maharajis world. Also not healthy. Jim how long were you involved and why did you stay that long? Bear

How unfortunate for you to get so emotionally screwed up over this cult leader, even to the point where you don't feel free to discuss the entanglement freely notwithstanding the fact that you're anonymous.  Hopefully, over time that'll change.  The good news, of course, is that you have seen through it all at last.  My guess is that with time you won't be so forlorn over imaginary love lost and will excite instead in your regained freedom and autonomy.

Myself, I was a premie from 1973 to 81 most of which time I lived in the ashram.  I stayed because it took me that long to finally bet on my mind again.  The scales just tipped in the favour of seriously considering my doubts rather than suppressing them.  It was a gradual process but it only went one way. 






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