Anyone who believes that engaging in challenging a cult will result in a 'win' is in my view, deluded. The only achievable objective can be to state ones views honestly and provide information to individuals, groups and institutions that may benefit from that information.

I don't think JohnM's post is really appropriate for F8 but out of sympathy for his situation I'm not going to complain about it remaining - nevertheless we should understand that his 'open letter' is using this Forum to resolve a situation that has nothing to do with the Forum.

The one phrase that struck me was:

>and have myself walking out the gate of IRCC and discreetly moving on <

I wonder how many of the guards from Auswitz and Belsen thought the same.

Whatever John now says - it should not be fortgotten that the Amaroo documents that came to light, raised serious concerns about the IRCC operation and the failure of the Australian authorities to investigate remains a serious indictment of instutional paralysis. Neither should it be forgotten that on at least one occaision (as John acknowledges in his post) a single parent and her nine year old twins were 'put in danger' by individuals 'looking' for John.

John is intent upon following a particualr course, it will hopefully give him the 'closure' he seeks, unfortunately it offers no resolution to any of the issues that John has raised in his criticisms of the cult and  its business operations; neither does it provide 'closure' for others who have been harmed and attacked by the cult.