Hi,

Trying to be neutral,
however admirable the intention, is a recipe for total confusion. 

There is some trues in it,
but I can't understand all the conflcts in the world. My experience is that, if
I know very much in some cases, I talk endless to try to make me
understandable. If I know too less I have to realise a few month later that I
must have sounded stupid. In case of Israel from my awareness I don't like the
present government. But my attidute towards Israel is even found amongst
Israels, of course my view is more liberal, that may not be shared from you or
jim. But my loyalty is with the people of Israel, but it's with the
Palistinians too, but my loyalty is not with those who spread violence wether
with weapons or psychic tactis. 

When you start to dive in
to history, when we try to see what causes had led to the condition of today it
is too much to study. I have so much to do in my everyday occurrences that I
don't have the time to dive so deep that I can qualify my knowldedge. And with
Israel it is the case that I have too little knowledge. I know a lot about what
Germans have done to the Jews, but I still can't  comprehend that the hate
had grown to such cruel deeds. But when I see the hate here from the right wing
people against refugees, than i can see parallels how this hate was made
socially acceptable. This growing anger and hate troubles me, and all dictators
had the somway the same recipe: a population that is scared, is more easy to
rule and more easy to lie to.

Wolfie