remember the dictum against "chit chat"
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why gossip is quashed in cults

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numbers? reads? not so impressive but here are some--

Some of Don's posts about cult are getting several hundreds of comments

Hans 111 "likes" etc and 80+ comments

The what do you call them, excuses? denials? 82 likes and 24 likes


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05/07/2006, 01:19:01
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Hello�to EVERONE!

I have many Thank You's to give to those who responded to my posts... who have helped explain the scam of�Prem Rawat's words from the old days. Thank You for sure!

�So many wonderful people are still here ... Joe, Cynthia, Anna, and Judy (my knowledge session friend from 1972)

Did I see the light?� Sure! �But my eyeballs were almost flattened into my brain and it�did hurt. I bet I could show someone the "light" too by poking their eyes real hard with my fingers. What do you think?��Not to mention the never ending mind abuse by Prem Rawat. Do any of you old timers remember this agya?�No more chit chat! Don't talk!

Anyhow ~ Thank You for responding� once again. Truely!

I like what LP and others had to say.��Steve is right on too�with the old "And It Is Divine" quote by Prem Rawat.

And John please don't worry ~ I love owning horrible mind abusing cult crap�from the past... so I�will keep it safe. Free shipping? I might get more on Ebay. I'm too�attached.

Love and Best Thoughts To Everyone, even the ones who still might love Prem Rawat for whatever reason.I like the thought that I started a thread that had so many great responces. I�Thank those who care enough to help others.

This attachment�is a picture of Prem Rawat etc. from Elan Vial - Autumn 1977, Volume 1, Issue 1, Page 15.

Best Thoughts! Even if Prem Rawat tried to kill our�minds.


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11/01/2006, 02:03:25
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There certainly was a period when chit chat was frowned upon by 'serious' premies. I can't remember when but I am pretty certain it came directly from Rawat, so, like other impossible instructions from him, premies tried to follow it. At the time, I remember feeling 'in my mind' when I spoke about anything that wasn't satsang. I also remember the feeling outside formal satsang when another premie was giving satsang I should listen as I would in formal satsang. I think this was during the ultra devotional period of trhe Kissimee programs, as I have a memory of t-shirts with the text 'I'd rather have satsang'. I think the culture sort of faded away. Well it did for me anyway.

John.


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01/15/2006, 09:31:54
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Well, here's the rub for me:� I continue to meditate on occasion using these techniques and I wouldn't be doing so unless I gained a sense of well-being doing so.� Naturally, I have nothing against humanity doing whatever if it feels good and doesn't harm anyone.� The harm is when a deluded and/or possibly megalomaniacal leader abuses his/her position by demanding absolute fealty in return.

In my mind Rawat has abused whatever goodwill was extended by me to him in return for the techniques.� He ascribed a metaphysical�significance to "knowledge" that was/is simply not warranted.� Feeling at peace does not equate to spiritual liberation or guru subservience and all of the Hindu concepts he has been�complicit in exporting around the world.� He demanded a surrender and devotion to him personally which was a deeply troubling chapter in my life.

Hilltop's posting of the published speeches of Maharaji/Rawat make it abundantly clear (again and again) that Rawat alone is responsible for all the wack concepts surrounding the simple techniques.� Any mental and emotional abuse arising from these concepts can therefore be placed quite rightly at Rawat's feet.� Moreover, Rawat alluding to being Krishna, Lord, Perfect Master, God, greater that God, all that crazy stuff was not a cultural misunderstanding but a severely deluded attempt to solicit our devotion and perpetuate a mythical belief system.� Rawat, in the Essen Coordinators meeting, also makes clear that all decisions are made by him not by his officials.� Therefore it is Rawat alone who can be blamed for all of the misguided propogation campaigns, fund-raising campaigns, no chit-chat directives and the like.

While Rawat and his organizations have belatedly learned a thing or two in terms of public relations and presentation over the years (as have many other cults) the fact remains that he has refused to be accountable for his�direction and decisions or otherwise accept responsibility for any harm arising as a consequence.� Just the opposite - he and his organizations have embarked on a long-standing campaign to destroy, spin and revise his history.��Therefore, one can only conclude that Rawat is responsible for this deception as well.








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