Re: quoting Hans Rawat on "Knowledge works" argument
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03/01/2024, 05:54:05
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Just to add that yes, this is an ancient religion, and it does not derive from the western civilization, and I know western civilization has many faults, but we have to acknowledge the fact that it is based on:

1. Logic/Reason 

where Knowledge is a process of knowing via the cognitive functions of the person (and a subjective feeling is not called knowledge but feeling.)

2. and Christian worldview ethics, where ALL human beings are existentially equal, and NO living person can be God, and where worshiping another mortal human being as God or any other idol is considered worship of Fake god and a delusion, since anything created (nature, humans) are NOT God, exactly because they are created. 

This is why in the western worldview, science is the way to know nature, not trying to "feel" nature in order to discover its metaphysical/magic qualities.

The "feeling" premies and their master refer to as being "the divine" is also a created feeling, part of creation, and the fact that it is called "the divine" is not justified by any logic.

It's a BELIEF.

But premies (and others who believe in similar religious worldviews) do not value Logic. 
SO they call "knowledge" a subjective feeling they have and believe its "knowledge of the divine"

But how could they value logic when they are told again and again to "shut down" their minds and open their "hearts"...?

Of course without Logic we woudnt be able to have any logical discussion... and with premies we don't.

As a premie for 30+ years (almost my whole life): I used to be like that.

I was replying to all the reasonable questions about my premie belief system as if Reason was the enemy : 
it can't be put into words I would say. 

It's not about logical arguments, I would say, it's about FEELING....

Feelings hmmmmm
I still wonder about premies if they are aware of what they are feeling: 

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE this is what they are mainly feeling.

The cognitive dissonance of living as a Logical human being half of their lives, and their other half, their MOST IMPORTANT half, their part that they think it is the REAL self, they live as a brainless creature aiming to be one with ZERO, in this life and in the after life - I mean this is their existential goal... to become one with ZERO: for their personalities to dissolve into nothingness... 

If someone's goal in life is to become one with ZERO then why would they care if their master is a pedophile ?

it's all an illusion anyways: Maya....

I do not want to undermine religions believing the world is an illusion but it's the most logical thing to say:  

believing that the world is an illusion does create cognitive dissonance and a VERY serious one.

the whole world is an illusion????
seriously?







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